Dr Martens pull Kurt ad

if kurt wore dc martin goods, it should be alright, if not,...no

if kurt wore dc martin goods, it should be alright, if not,...no

This just proves that there is no escape from the media, even death, Kurt killed himself because he could not take it, and now this.

i find this really offensive that this person has been put in advert for doc martins i think they shouldn't have done this because he is a legend and should be left to r.i.p

I dont think its offfensive, all their fans should be honoured that true legends were chosen to be in this add not some new band that will last for 5 minutes and increase the publicity of the add campaign. yes they should have got permission to use the images but really its an honour that they chose to recognise these people and didnt fall into the pattern of using new bands so that younger people will be attracted to the campaign.
Thats just my opinion

cobain didn't kill himself. look at the facts, read the book.it's a conspiracy. his ex-wife is all behind it. but i do agree with you about the media situation though.

DM boots are too good for Kurt the first emo.

Is this really an issue, its just an advert for shoes, which incidentlly kurt most definately would have worn. does it really matter that he is dead, Oliver Stone finished a film when he died so the least these can do is sit on a cloud. Also Kurt didn't kill himself cause he didn't want fame, of course he wanted fame otherwise why play in a band, why sign to a major label and why tour? he was just too naive to se that people would want to know about him, the nice freindly drugs done him over not fame ( by the way he took drugs not to escape fame but because someone gave him some and they felt good) there not too difficult was it.
While i am ranting what is emo??? fuck if its good its good i remember when emo meant REM, Live and what not, now emo seems to mean if your hair obscures one eye and you do a kick jump on stage!! Fact of the matter is if you put some emo riffs out there with slightly different vocals on it then it would be almost thrash! (imagine Tom Araya singing over the quicker Funeral for a Friend songs and it could be slayer)

Is this really an issue, its just an advert for shoes, which incidentlly kurt most definately would have worn. does it really matter that he is dead, Oliver Stone finished a film when he died so the least these can do is sit on a cloud. Also Kurt didn't kill himself cause he didn't want fame, of course he wanted fame otherwise why play in a band, why sign to a major label and why tour? he was just too naive to se that people would want to know about him, the nice freindly drugs done him over not fame ( by the way he took drugs not to escape fame but because someone gave him some and they felt good) there not too difficult was it.
While i am ranting what is emo??? fuck if its good its good i remember when emo meant REM, Live and what not, now emo seems to mean if your hair obscures one eye and you do a kick jump on stage!! Fact of the matter is if you put some emo riffs out there with slightly different vocals on it then it would be almost thrash! (imagine Tom Araya singing over the quicker Funeral for a Friend songs and it could be slayer)

Beadles Harp - do you mean Oliver Reid?

its not right to show dead rock icons for adverts if they didnt actually use the product.
btw, metal god, kurt was not emo, just cus in heart shape box he talks about emotion does not make him emo! ur just another one of these people who thinks they know exactly what emo is and anyone who puts any emotion into anything is emo. narrow minded jackass.

Why does it offend people?
If it was their family, then maybe so. But it's just people being awkward. It's showing them in a good light. It's not like they're being made to wash the boots. They're shown wearing them with pride. Does this mean that people can't wear Nirvana and Sex Pistols tee shirts as well? Quite pathetic to be honest.

So fucking what? It's a bloody advert. There's no escaping the media these days. What's the point of getting so worked up about it? Everytihng's a sell out these days... who gives a shit.

I don't see the problem in showing deseased rock stars they get the publicity aswell, it helps to boost their sales not just dr martens.

HAHA it would be like Richard Whitley advertising Kerrang magazine
As cool as the product is, the person just doesnt fit
What you need is MCR all up there so DOC martins sell out to all the 13 yr olds out there!!!
PLUS - The adverts are too innocent

Someone like Joe Strummer is a lost legend, to have him featured in these adverts would raise his profile, and the music of the Clash, which many regard as the greatest of the punk era.

Someone like Joe Strummer is a lost legend, to have him featured in these adverts would raise his profile, and the music of the Clash, which many regard as the greatest of the punk era.

well tbh those religious crackpot nirvana fans need to just shut up and accept their dead gods image is being used to whore footware.

boohoo.

advertisers should swing! screw all advertisers and screw all those it works on- kurt advertising shotguns?! stop now- wise up!

if certain people have a problem with it then dotn look at it..at the end of the day its a form of advertising..sex sells but people don't complain and if they do they're unaddressed so why should this be any different?

advertisers should swing! screw all advertisers and screw all those it works on- kurt advertising shotguns?! stop now- wise up!

if certain people have a problem with it then dotn look at it..at the end of the day its a form of advertising..sex sells but people don't complain and if they do they're unaddressed so why should this be any different?

if certain people have a problem with it then dotn look at it..at the end of the day its a form of advertising..sex sells but people don't complain and if they do they're unaddressed so why should this be any different?

well its more offensive that kerrang only chose the use of cobains image as something to report on lol seein as other were used in the advert. not really offensive. mabey harcore fans n reletives may find it not the most fitting rememberence but still. its tame by modern standards. quite tasteless but still tame. i dont think many will care tbh

Personally I think it's disrespectful to use a dead person's image for any form of advertising. If Kurt, Sid and Joe were alive, they wouldn't comission it would they? I'm sure they wouldn't want their fame exploited to make teenagers buy expensive shoes (because lets face it, they ARE expensive), that's not what they were about.

whats wrong with it? its just an advert!
all they are trying to do is appeal to a certain audince with this advert. get over it
xx

i think the media should lay off these guys! and let them rest in peace! ffs! Kurt didn't even wear Dr Martens if he did that would probably be a different story!
The advert wasn't thought out very well! and i think it should be changed! maybe use alive "rock stars" that actually wear Dr Martens i think it would be safer!

how is this offensive....its just an advert that is for one of the best shoe brands ever. You would of thought this would be a compliment to kurt cobain...sid vicious and joe strummer....that even the greatest of rock stars that are dead are STILL remembered!!
These frontmen would proberly be wearing them if they were alive anyways.
Why are people arguing about it.
get the fuck over it!!
Great shoe....Great front men....whats the problem.
all their doing is sitting on fucking clouds!!!!
thats just so offensive!!
hahaha no.

Ha i think its cool. No way do i find it offensive, people who do are over sensetive and need to chill out,

=D

who cares? it's a fucking shoe. if people are going to be stupid enough to buy it, then it's their own fault. either way, it's a form of advertising, and you're going to have to learn to deal with that.

i think the media should lay off these guys! and let them rest in peace! ffs! Kurt didn't even wear Dr Martens if he did that would probably be a different story!
The advert wasn't thought out very well! and i think it should be changed! maybe use alive "rock stars" that actually wear Dr Martens i think it would be safer!

All the publicity about this add is just going to get more people to know about dr martens, so there aim of the add has worked. So, i think it is a really clever idea.
And anyway its just an advert for shoes, what would you prefer? somebody who has been in the spotlight for five minutes or a ledgend??

As much as i love DM's, i think its a disgrace to use dead icons and heroes to sell a product, its like i-pod using Jesus as a advertising campaign. Surely there is no difference right.

Jaz x

i think ther is nothing wrong with this being used for an advert, so its using some one dead but so do many adverts portay and show pictures and fotage of dead people but know one complains about them.

Fair Play To DM's For Thinking Up Such A Good Ad!
The Family Of Kurt And His Other Dead Rockers Obviously Agreed To The Ad Or It Wouldn't Be Going. So It'll Be Whiney Little Teenagers Who Wanna Crack On At Anything To Get Themselves Noticed. What's So Offensive About A Bunch Of The Worlds Greatest Stars Wearing Some Kick Arse Shoes? It'll Be Them Scene Kids.

i think ther is nothing wrong with this being used for an advert, so its using some one dead but so do many adverts portay and show pictures and fotage of dead people but know one complains about them.

That's so disrespectful! When they were alive they probably wouldn't have agreed to being in these adverts, but as they're dead and can't argue they're just going to use them anyway! They had no right to do that and I'm glad it was stopped.

In all honest truth I don't find the ad offensive. If Kurt were alive, you wouldn't find it offensive then? He'd just be like any other person modelling them. The fact he's deceased I find it ridiculous that people think it's a bad idea. The advert obviously boosts the awarness of these stars, and for the shoes too, but who's guna look at the shows when Cobains there. EH EH!

I don't think its offensive, I actually find it respectful that they continue to honour the deceased.

Also, they're shoes, does it really fucking matter? Plus, they are Dr Martens, I mean it would be a bit of a problem if they were advertising Paris Hiltons new fragrance or some shit like that.

The images aren't really vulgar, they're actually quite cute. All the deceased included are legends, so its only fair that their memories continue to live on.

I don't see why people are kicking up a fuss, making a mountain out of a molehill. Get a grip.

In all honest truth I don't find the ad offensive. If Kurt were alive, you wouldn't find it offensive then? He'd just be like any other person modelling them. The fact he's deceased I find it ridiculous that people think it's a bad idea. The advert obviously boosts the awarness of these stars, and for the shoes too, but who's guna look at the shows when Cobains there. EH EH!

This is completely stupid! How could anyone complain about this advert, if he was alive today he probably wouldnt care. He most probably wore them why else would they use him, its pathetic to say they only use him because he so widely known so there sales would go up every other clothes, car, sports company do the same thing so why should they be any different. At the end of the day everyone has to make a living in this world and this is just an advert in a huge world with larger issues than him appearing on advert. I cant understand why it could offend anyone considering they love Kurt, Sid and Joe and everyone should realise that if they were alive they really wouldnt give a fuck so why should anyone else.

Ok, to be honest, yes, it's a bit disrespectful to have dead people on clouds wearing clothing for an advert, but, as long as the families of the people aren't upset by it...why should other people?...Also, wouldn't you rather that they were remembered, than just be forgotten?

Plus, its a great source of publicity for the shoe just bitching about it...

If someone see's a rock star, dead or otherwise, wearing something, they will want it...and companies know this...which is why they retail the MCR Black Parade jackets at £50 or whatever.

They aren't stupid.

Tbh I agree why some people might find it offensive and the fact the media affected Kurt. But isn't the ad remembering Kurt and the other dead icons? At least the ad isn't slating them, and after all, they could've published some 5 minute wonder :P

i meant shoes :)

It all really depends on whether they would have worn Dc Martins in the first place. If Kurts up the kicking it back in some Docs then that’s all good. And if not, TAKE IT OFF!

This would have been a nice, humourous way to remember some of the greatest rock legends ever to have lived.

I can't see why people think it's such a big problem.

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If Dr Martens got permission from the deceased's estates then fine, bit if they didn't the images shouldn't have been used. At the end of the day a person can just change the channel/turn the page if they see something they don't like. This is also small potatoes compared to what else is happening in the world

to be honest.. i don't feel that anything is wrong with the ad.yes kurt is dead but he isn't forgotten and if an advert is getting in the way of fans then its their problem.everyday we see "celebs" in mags promoting the lastest clothing. and well even if Kurt is dead,well it doesnt make it any different. i love nirvana and yes i find the advert abit confusing to be honest but i dont feel that it should be pulled because of some fans opinions.

I can see why people can find it offencive, but i don't. It's a way of showing that the greatest rock gods are still been remembered.
But they really should have thought this idea throught more, maybe even done some reasearch?
But i can see were the complaints have come from.
But in my opoinon, they have done nothing wrong, if they have permision.

I can see why people can find it offencive, but i don't. It's a way of showing that the greatest rock gods are still been remembered.
But they really should have thought this idea throught more, maybe even done some reasearch?
But i can see were the complaints have come from.
But in my opoinon, they have done nothing wrong, if they have permision.

To be honest, can you see Kurt actually caring about this if he was alive?

I can't. >_<

I feel that DM wanted to put this in their advert just proves that their not forgotten.

Why is that so wrong?

To be honest, can you see Kurt actually caring about this if he was alive?

I can't. >_<

I feel that DM wanted to put this in their advert just proves that their not forgotten.

Why is that so wrong?

To be honest, can you see Kurt actually caring about this if he was alive?

I can't. >_<

I feel that DM wanted to put this in their advert just proves that their not forgotten.

Why is that so wrong?

before kurt died he quit nirvana, he obviusly didnt want anymore publicty.
for dead people to be displayed for adverts, thats offensive.

I don't see the problem, If Kurt was alive no-one would find it offensive. It's not like they done the add without asking if it would be alright to use him in the add, someone must of said it was ok. Well thats what I think I don't know for sure..

Seriously... People complaining about Kurt Cobain wearing some branded shoes.. But i bet you they wouldnt complain if it was a make like.. Vans or something. Whats the problem really. If i were dead.. I wouldnt mind being in an advert. and on the upside. Some people dont even think Kurt Cobain is dead... =|.. enough said really.

To be honest, can you see Kurt actually caring about this if he was alive?

I can't. >_<

I feel that DM wanted to put this in their advert just proves that their not forgotten.

Why is that so wrong?

in all honesty, i think this has been blown out of proportion. yes i can understand why people will complain and why people think its distasteful, but think about it. us fans (of both dr. martens AND nirvana/sex pistols/the clash) deserve to see our heroes immortalised like this. personally if i saw my hero wearing dr. martens, i would buy them, even though i dont like them myself. although Kurt never actually wore them, i still dont think it should be pulled as it is simply an advertising campaign. people who have complained should get over themselves and realise that.

To be honest, can you see Kurt actually caring about this if he was alive?

I can't. >_<

I feel that DM wanted to put this in their advert just proves that their not forgotten.

Why is that so wrong?

To be honest, can you see Kurt actually caring about this if he was alive?

I can't. >_<

I feel that DM wanted to put this in their advert just proves that their not forgotten.

Why is that so wrong?

i haven't actually seen the advert but theres nothing wrong with it.
at least they have rock legends in it.
i'm sure they're not complaining. at least people still know who they are and respect them. this advert just proves it.

I think that using dead rock stars to promote stuff is totally wrong! I mean imagine dieing yourself, then imagine someone using images of you in some shoes that you have no choice in!
At least use living rock stars!

I can't actually believe that people are making a big deal out of this, the stars on the poster are fucking legends, and Cobain should be bloody smiling in his grave to be placed next to the likes of Sid Vicious and Joe Strummer. It just gets on my bloody tits that people are so goddam touchy about these kinda things. GET A GRIP. its not like its going to make a difference the their lives.

is it? i mean yeah taking unauthorised is wrong but seeing legends like these guys is pretty cool

Quote: "I dont think its offfensive, all their fans should be honoured that true legends were chosen to be in this add not some new band that will last for 5 minutes and increase the publicity of the add campaign." by amber

i mean if they were to use mandina lake for instance or someone like mcfly then they would only do it for publicity.

i think its pretty cool how they done it (Y)

I think it comes down to whether or not he would of agreed to do it if he was still with us.

I'd be proper chuffed if I was Kurt and the rest of the deceased in docs clan.
Actually that's a slight lie, as I'd be dead and therefore unaware..
But in principal...I don't reckon any of them would be that arsed either way.

Obviously, there are moral issues involved when using the image of a dead person for advertising purposes. But I don't believe that Dr Martins mean any disresepect to the person(s) in question - I think the idea of the advert is to combine two iconic elements: 1. a rock star legend whose images adorn a multitude of music magazines at any one time; and 2. massively popular footwear in the 70s, 80s, 90s and 00s worn by everyone from punks and metalheads to indie kids. Need I point out that the reason thousands of Nirvana fans wear Cons is most likely because Cobain wore them. It's a culture thing - monkey see monkey do, ahem. Whether or not Cobain actually wore Dr Martins is questionable, though I'm still sure the advert is intended as affectionate.

no way. what shit heads! they could at least photoshop it so it looks right!

I'd be proper chuffed if I was Kurt and the rest of the deceased in docs clan.
Actually that's a slight lie, as I'd be dead and therefore unaware..
But in principal...I don't reckon any of them would be that arsed either way.

if this adverts bad and disrespectful then should all the Nirvana vids that are showing on kerrang or whatever daily be pulled off air just because someone thinks its disrespectful - as long as the relatives are ok with it then i think its ok besides at least theyre not gunna be forgotton.

Offensive? Hardly.
If those people were alive today they'd be pissing themselves laughing! Perhaps some people are just wound up 'cause even the deceased continue to make more money than them.

This is not offensive. Shoe adverts show ledgends playing soccer/football, but this one has missed out the soccer/football "legend" and put a true ledgend of rock =]

hmm from what i've read, the only "relative" who has made this an issue is courtney.
she's just pissed off cuz she wasn't paid for them to use kurt's image in the advert.
if dr. martens would have given her a wad of dosh, she wouldn't have turned this into a drama.

I don't find the adverts personally offensive. The advert was clearly designed not only to advertise the boots but in admiration to those deceased musicians featured.

It's weird, why don't they just leave the dead to rest in peace? There's no morals in the mediaworld today.

Not too sure what I think of this one. did Kurt wear Dr Martens? If he did, I see no problem. if not, it's false advertising, but it's not offensive.
Hell, the Philadelphia ads have women with halos eating cheese, but christians don't say they're pretending God loves Philadelphia. Why the hell should anyone be offended by someone wearing shoes on a cloud?

Do you honestly think this is such a big deal?
Ok, so maybe using dead guys as an advert, isnt that good, but, seriously? People had nothing better to do with their time then to complain?!?! If it was the families complaining then I could understand that the ad should have been pulled, but if not then I dont see the problem.
So seriously, if you are one of the people who complained, get over it! If you wanna help the world go out to Africa and build wells, or go save monkeys in the rainforest. However, this, isnt how to do it really. The only thing wrong with the add is that the Clouds are really tacky, and not that well done and that Cobain looks a bit like Jesus... Maybe he was?
Yeah, anyways.... I dont think people like Kurt Cobain and Sid Vicious woud have cared that much to be hounest. Can you actually see them making a big deal outta it?
Yeah, I didnt think so.

Like this isnt what kurt wanted? he's famous for killing himself, if he hadn't nirvana would be seen as 'that band that used to be good' but no because he killed himself he is idolisised and nevermind is possibly the most overrated album in history, so yea the man who killed himself for publicity? i dont think he would mind been in an advert. x

I don't really see what the big problem is with this advert featuring dead rockstars, i mean, elvis managed to release tracks well after he died, why shouldnt kurt cobain manage toi wearshoes after his death? besides, its not like Dr Martens are in any way "befouling" kurt cobain or sid vicious's name. The only thing i do think is wrong with the whole thing is the fact that they couldn't exactly ask kurt cobain if he wanted to star in one of their adverts because he's dead, maybe he would have hated dr martens, who knows? with that in mind, i think they would have been better off picking someone who is still alive who could actually decline or accept the offer.
I also happen to find the ad itself slightly bizarre but that doesn't really have anything to do with anything.

Come on, none of these people have been allowed to rest in peace anyways..... there's always some conspiracy theory being brought up about them. I honestly don't find this offensive...... it's just them showing their admiration. It could be a LOT more offensive

i think these ads are highly offensive really disrespectful it wouldnt be to bad if they people were actually alive but using the dead for advertisment makes me feel sick. They shouldnt do this because it stupid and ridiculos to think great people who help kids understand the true meaning of music would want to advertise for DM's. they are not considering the fans point of view some could be upset. next time they should just fucking think

Ok You Have To Look At The Two Sides,
I Believe It Was Wrong To Use These People, Especially Kurt Who Ended His Life Due To The Media And Yet Its Things Like This That Prove That Kurt Had A Point.
Although,
They Are Using Faces Of Legends,
Carrying On There Spirit Showing That They Are Still Around In Spirit And That They Live On.
It Can Be Taken Either Way, It Just DEpends On Your Point Of View.

Ok You Have To Look At The Two Sides,
I Believe It Was Wrong To Use These People, Especially Kurt Who Ended His Life Due To The Media And Yet Its Things Like This That Prove That Kurt Had A Point.
Although,
They Are Using Faces Of Legends,
Carrying On There Spirit Showing That They Are Still Around In Spirit And That They Live On.
It Can Be Taken Either Way, It Just Depends On Your Point Of View.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! I hate these cynical marketing ploys to get attention! Kurt Cobain (killed himself or maybe got killed by his ex-wife;details are sketchy) hated the media and they are using him in a bleeding Doc. Martens advert! Also The Clash and The Sex Pistols were all anti-establishment and anti media...and yet they are using them for this...disgusting.

Im torn by the situation. The ad's themselves are well done, and in a way are immortalizing these "music legends" furthur. But at the same time there is no way of knowing if they would have represented a brand such as dr martens...
shock tactics like this are generally used to get people talking about a brand...as the saying goes "theres no such thing as bad publicity"

i dont see the problem.. they arent portrayed in a negative way.. it does seem like a bit of a jib that they have to use names like those to try and draw attention tho..

I don't really see it as a promlem in general, i'm guessing it's all in good fun but in Kurt Cobains case, he never liked the fame & attention so being used in advert is not what he'd have wanted... + the money will prob end up in Courtneys pocket to screw over Dave and Krist even more.

I really don't think it matters either way.

I can see that people are complaining because Kurt wanted to avoid media attention (not saying killed himself, I really don't think he did.) but then again, he is being used because he is a widely respected and recognised person, so it could be taken as flattery that even in death people are wanting him to be shown using their products.

I think it's quite good that the ad has been pulled, but I wouldn't have taken offence had I seen it.

~x~

I really don't think the adverts are offensive. I like the idea of the adverts and it's almost in memory of them and just showing that they were legends.

ok so Kurt Cobain never wore Docs, but who really gives a shit? Doc Martens are accociated with Grunge/Goth and Punk.
It's an advert! even if it mean's the Bitch get's the money, and underground is becoming commerciallised(well, duh!) Get over it

I wouldn't have been offended if I saw one of the adverts either, I would have thought it was pretty awesome and liked it. Everybody is just HUGELY over reacting!

Personally i don't have a problem with it, it's not as if theyve been shown in a bad way or anything, although i really think they should have got proper permission for it first.
Don't you reckon it could be a big publicity stunt, though? I mean, obviously the Dr Martens advertisers knew there was going to be a shit load of fuss over it. Maybe they think people are going to be like.. Oh my god, Kurt wore Martens, lets go buy some...

=]

As has been rightly pointed out, DMs were very popular amongst UK punks and later on, US grunge kids.
At least it's only boots they're advertising, it would be a horrific show of disrespect if they used, say, Dimebag to advertise guns or ammo.

frankly i dont feel offended about this at all but i can see where people are comeing from. I mean most of the people involved were prety anti-commercialist right? and i doubt they would particuarly like thier images being used in such a cynical money makeing manner. But, i dont think there should be such a big deal about the ad's cos the best thing we can do is ignore them. if you are truely agans the ad's the why are u giveing them more publicity by makeing a big hey-ho about it? Just remember not to let the ad's , any advert at all, to get in your head, ok?

It's just an advert. There's no need to get into such a pickle about it. Gawsh.

I don't think its offensive, Doc martens rock so why not use a rock legen in their advertising?!

WTF??

its not exactly offensive but its not a good advert either. you see that, ur lyk awsome, summit about Kurt Kobain. Then its just for shoes. That would just annoy you and make you not want to buy them. its not offensive, but its a shit advert.

I dont think it is offensive really. it shows that people still remember icons like Cobain and that there legacy will always live on

if doc martens are doing this ad campaign in order to just promote their gear, then this advert is stupid but then again, kurt didnt want the fame and fortune ,don't doc martens actually get that he didnt want publicity?

this is just an example of ignorance and laziness on behalf of the people who came up with the ad. its easy to come up with an add involving dead people- elvis, cobain etc etc. but it actually takes a bit of effort to think of something original and in-offensive. hey jesus is a dead icon too, lets see them make an ad with him in it!

I do think it's completely unfair to use the images of dead rock stars. I mean what if Kurts family, his daughter and Courtney saw the advert, which they undoubtedly will have now. It was a devastating thing to lose someone close to you and to have them in a sense ridiculed and shown in clouds is completely unfair. I’m glad the advert has been pulled. Screw you Dr Martens!

these three people are perfect for advertising docs. There the only reason most of us wear them ar'nt they. Dr Martins, go with punk and grunge like a duck go's with water.
big love

these three people are perfect for advertising docs. There the only reason most of us wear them ar'nt they. Dr Martins, go with punk and grunge like a duck go's with water.
big love

these three people are perfect for advertising docs. There the only reason most of us wear them ar'nt they. Dr Martins, go with punk and grunge like a duck go's with water.
big love

What the hell is the problem with this? Dr Martens are only trying to advertise their product to the world, and by using these legends of rock and punk it shows that they are actually using their heads and know that these people did actually wear the shoes they produce. If they had used a more recent band, like Fall Out Boy, for example, would an arguement have kicked up for the fact that they dont even wear DR Martens so the purpose of them advertising them is pointless, as they would never buy the product. No I hear the sensible people in this world say! Fair enough, maybe they should have asked for permission to use the photo's but although this is only a slight error its not the end of the world. Are there not more important things going on that we should be more worried about than some of our most loved dead icons wearing a pair of f*****g boots! They all wore them alive so why not when they are dead. I love all the artists that are in these adverts and they do not disgust me, well apart from the fact that maybe sid should be in hell and not heaven, Download have named their second stage after the late and great Dimbead so why cant DR Martens honour legends by showing them in adverts. Noone would complain if it was a converse advert!!

who seriously gives a fuck? in no way is it offensive at the end of the day the only person that would complain would be courtney love and even then once they give her a shit load of cash she'd be up for it.

i really do not see the problem, these guys were legends, why should they be forgotten? if people want to use their faces in adverts let them, if the people used didn't want to be in the public eye they wouldn't have been in such high flying bands.

only people related to or close friends of the diceased have a say in this.
so shut the fuck up whining! its only a footwear ad you fools. like you give a toss anyway, you only want an excuse to moan.

I think it is pretty low that the company would use images of iconic dead musicians to promote thier boots without permission,i dont think its that its offensive,its just that its done in bad taste.

Courtney Love is pissed about it too,probably cause she would have gotten no royalties from it.
Also,ye forgot to metion too that Joey Ramone was also part of this advertising campaign.

i really do not see the problem, these guys were legends, why should they be forgotten? if people want to use their faces in adverts let them, if the people used didn't want to be in the public eye they wouldn't have been in such high flying bands.

only people related to or close friends of the diceased have a say in this.
so shut the fuck up whining! its only a footwear ad you fools. like you give a toss anyway, you only want an excuse to moan.

xian i agree with you
all they want to do is advertise their boots in the best way
so they get Icons
icons that people remember
its an advert get over yourselves

There are alot of views on this, but heres mine, THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! how dare you bring back the dead just to show off some crappy boots that are probably not even worth the time and effort, sure they're showing that these people were great but didnt we already know this!?

from the Ad perspective its pretty cool...i mean you've got this hugely iconic star in straight clean cut white...which is completely un-kurt and then you've got grungey black dr martens...totally going with his style...all the stars are legends and this ad campaign just remembers that...i definately think its a cool idea. x

as my boot of choice DMs i thank you for your respect and bringing these icons back to life with your product. However, my icon, sid really should be in hell.

Unless the dead in question expresses their support for a certain product pre-kicking the bucket, they shouldn't be used to advertise it. Also, keep in mind Kurt, Sid and Joe might not be in heaven at all.

personally i think its offensive.
during kurt's life it was clear to all that he was disturbed by the fame. okay regardless of wether it was sucide or murder, he wasnt comfortable with the spot light on him. its just so disrespectful to use a dead legend to sell a pair of shoes, he hasnt given his permission so the dr martin company should not exploit that.

Blimey! Why does everything have to be so bloody PC nowadays? I mean its just a bit of light hearted humor? And like they would actually "care" I mean Kurt was pretty morbid himself so if this was to cause such "offense" then I think he would probably just laugh it off or ignore it. Also to be honest this advert I'm presuming isn't going to be slating them in anyway so what the harm?

That's ludicrous. Why would anyone get "offended"? Everybody dies, so what's the big deal? I'm sure the three musicians would approve of the advert. Some people need to get a life.

I don't find it offensive it all.
It is just like a memorial to them.
Why should an advert be any more offensive than a grave stone?

I don't think it is offensive as such, but I can see why people would get annoyed. It is kind of like making light of a terrible event.
But on the other hand it is showing admiration to them by putting them on an advert that millions of people will see.
So I think there are two sides to it =)

Course they shouldn't use them - it isn't fair to use the reputation of the rock legends to advertise and make money for a shoe they never endorsed. How do we know one of them didn't hate DMs?

It Can Be Seen In Two Different Ways, Offensively or Not. Personally, I Don't See How It Is Offensive, Joe Strummer, Sid Vicious and Kurt Cobain Are All Celebrities, Celebrities Advertise Things All The Time So Why Can't They. It Shouldn't Matter Whether They Are Dead Or Not.

its really pathetic how you have to use dead icons to sell your product, plus Kurt never belived in the media and advertising.
if kurt,strummer,sid were to wear dr martens then i wouldnt mind....

Somebody with more insight and personal attachment to the icons featured have probably approved this method of advertising and if they aren't offended by it why should anyone else? I think the company were wrong to remove the ad though...just proving that political correctness has gone crazy in a world where anything and everything can cause offense. Afterall you can't please everyone and no one's forcing you to watch it, change the channel or turn a page. Easy!

If anyone thinks that a simple advertisement can taint the legacy and the respect we hold for our idols, your wrong. It's just another way of remembering them and their ideals, although the irony doesn't escape me that they were all kind of anti-commercialist but if their image is out there it could act as a way for people who are unaware of their influence to discover them. And that could only be a good thing considering the kind of "celebrity" that currently grace our adverts and products.

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I don't think it's inappropriate - it's not cashing in on someone's death as if it's a joke. The ad doesn't seem to discredit or make fun of them, it just uses their faces. I think it's more of a compliment to their name and why should we cover up and not mention people who have been an inspiration to us all just because they're not walking the planet anymore? And at the end of the day, DMs have to sell a product and who better to use than people the customers really like?

I would rather buy something "endorsed" by dead rock legends than has been football "stars" *cough* Beckham *cough*

Yes I know they haven't been endorsed by them

In response to claires comment above about someone close to the guys approving the ad,No one was approached for permission to use their images.These ads were only going to be in the UK and Bristish law allows images of dead celebraties to be used without permission.

Using dead rock stars to promote a brand is just wrong. Kurt Cobain in particular was anything but a corporate whore, and this campaign from Dr Martens is pimping his legacy and what he stood for out like a cheap bitch. I'm glad theyve pulled the ad campaign, but it shouldnt have been out there in the first place to be pulled. Think before you act, and itll save you a hell of a lot of money, and people wont lose respect for your brand.

Why the hell are people getting offended? I think it's a great ad and unless you are Kurt's family or the family of any other person featured in this ad and you KNOW that these people would get offended why are you complaining? Lighten up a little, it's just an ad campaign after all. What makes you think you can decide what Kurt Cobain would have wanted anyway?

I think that its a lovely way to remember these guys. I can't see why people are getting upset about it. After all, isn't it because of Kurt and others like him that we all love DM's today?!

I think that its a lovely way to remember these guys. I can't see why people are getting upset about it. After all, isn't it because of Kurt and others like him that we all love DM's today?!

For fuck sake. Everytime Kurt gets media attention there's always some moron contingent that pops up to say how offended they are. It's beyond a joke. Like when Courtney announce she was selling some of his stuff.

People who have cannonised they guy waaaay beyound his actual importance/standing/talent.

Ok, Nirvana were a great band, no question, but Kurt wasn't a saint or some god-like visionary who offed himself because he didn't want to be a corprate puppet. The guy was a very depressed junkie who was under a tonne of pressure. How is he any different to any other less famous guy in the same situation.

I plead with the people who complained. Stop fetishising the man. He was a good musician and released some good tunes, but nothing more. The mans been dead 13 years. Get over it.

doc martins go with the grunge era,kurt wore them and so did most of the bands of that time,i bloody wore them too!now they are mostly worn by truckers and lesbians but they were then wot cons are now.i dont find it offensive,i find it an advert,and i bet kurt would probably find it funny!
never seen him look so clean! r.i.p.

it dosent matter if kurt wore the boots or not they shud of asked courtey b4 makin the advert im sure frances wouldnt wanna see her dead dad n televsion trying 2 sell boots

Courtney doesn't own the rights to Kurts likeness, or image. Just his music and that stuff. The person who took the photo and owns it has the right to refuse to let it be used. If Dr Martins got that permission then it's all legal. Courtney has nothing to do with it. As for Frances? I think she's old enough to accept that her dad was pretty famous and that his image and music will be used in such ways.

It's ridiculous to be offended by this. People weren't up in arms when there were adverts featuring Elvis? Why should Kurt be any different?
It's not like they showed him doing something un-Kurt-ly. He's wearing boots. Big fucking deal.

i think that what doc martins has done is totally out of order and shouldnt be advertising such a lame product with such great rock and punk icons.

its like making an ad with princess diana wearing new rocks!
its just wrong!!!

leave them at peace

i think that what doc martins has done is totally out of order and shouldnt be advertising such a lame product with such great rock and punk icons.

its like making an ad with princess diana wearing new rocks!
its just wrong!!!

leave them at peace

well if kurt didn't ever wear the shoes it could be offensive to fans, friends, and family of him, as its using his icon to sell shoes without respecting him. If they are in heaven in the pictures I guess its offensive to religiopus people. I don't know. Its not that big a deal really.

FOR FUCK SAKE!!!

KURT IS NOT A SAINT, TO BE TREATED WITH DEVOUT PRAISE. USING HIOS IMAGE IN AN ADVERT MEANS FUCK ALL.

Will you people just drop it. It's not like they dug him up and fucked him in the eye socket.

Who cares what Courtney, his fans, or religious people think? Just deal with it.

WHY IS EVERYONE MAKING SUCH A BIG DEALL ABOUTIT????

JUST BE HAPPY FOR FUX SAKE!!

its not at all any form of a big deal. . . .if anything, i find it quite entertaining. . . .its a good concept.

*r.i.p Kurt*
x

if u dont care wot nirvana fans think why have u spent hours on this site?nobody said he was a saint but he was an icon of the time and was the leader of grunge and brought rock music back to the fore.credit where its due eh?talkin sith mate.get over yourself

I think that this is very politically correct. Kurt, Sid and Joe Strummer are all dead; they'd probably just have wrote a song about it anyway if they WERE bothered...What's the big deal?

You're idolising the man. He was not the leader of grunge. Many bands of that genre were around before Nirvana. Go to wikipedia and look up 'sub pop'. He didn't bring rock back to the fore either. Rock was never in decline. Sure, most of the mainstream rock was shit, but when isn't it?

Bottom line:
Nirvana weren't special.
Kurt wasn't special.

Stop idolising him and see him for waht he was. I troubled musician. No more, no less. Besides, I doubt any of you would be up in arms if it were Layne Staley in the advert.

who cares their dead anyway

least someone here knows what they're talking about. They were an ok band, but not noteworthy. Unfortunately they were marketable enough for the record companies to convince a good chunk of the easily lead masses to listen to them- bringing closer to listening to the shitty pop that they churn out day in day out.

stop idolising and go to wikipedia,bit bossy arnt u?also,im not up in arms,i liked it.the point was should the ads run n i dont see the harm in it.for some reason you feel it necessary to jump all over peoples tastes and opinions which says more about yourself than kurt or docs.whether you liked them or not you cant deny their success and impact on the music world.

I dont get why people have made a fuss about this cos if I saw an advert with legends like them in it I wouldn't mind at least there celebritys that have actulay done somthing better them on tv then have paris hilton rammed down our throats all the time

I dont get why people have made a fuss about this cos if I saw an advert with legends like them in it I wouldn't mind at least there celebritys that have actulay done somthing better them on tv then have paris hilton rammed down our throats all the time

I dont get why people have made a fuss about this cos if I saw an advert with legends like them in it I wouldn't mind at least there celebritys that have actulay done somthing better them on tv then have paris hilton rammed down our throats all the time

Bill hicks was right advertisers are the scum of the earth willing to use whatever means possible to promote thier products to the masses, they should respect the lives of those passed on or at least do a survey of young people to see who they think would be appropriate to advertise them, I've no love for Cobain I was more of an alice in chains fan but still i'd never go so far as to disrespect the memory of any thats passed on. Advertising scum bag

What impact? If he had any it was by making guitar music (I refuse to insult rock by applying it to his music) more commercial and pop-like.

doesnt offend me one bit i mean who gives a f**k really they should pull the ad cos the pics wern't authorised for use but not cos' they were offensive.
it is a bit of a disgrace exploiting these people (even if they do suck), it's just a souless company exploiting something once great for profit *coughMCRcough*

take it youre a pioneer of elitest rock,as soon as a band generates any kind of success for itself,you turn your back on them and claim you never liked them anyway!does it make you feel good to trash wot is successful?i bet youre the kind of person that trawls these pages looking for young kids to belittle cos their music opinion differs to your own and it makes you feel like the big man!then as soon as another bloke appears you suck up to him!shame.how the hell "rape me" can be commercial and pop like is beyond me.

Personally, I find this quite offensive. If he was alive then he could have agreed to model the boots, but hes not.
At the same time the company is obviously targeting towards a certain audience then using well known rockstars is a good way to catch the targeted audiences attention. If Kurt was alive, he'd probably agree to do it anyway!

I don't find it offensive. As long as they had permission from the stars families Im fine with it, after all their the ones who knew them, we are just fans and if the families and people close to them agreed to let Dr Martens put them in the ad then its their choice, what difference would it be to us? It would be the people who knew them that it might effect seeing their loved ones on tv if they didnt want them to be there.

...funny.
All people saying 'let them rest in peace' ... they're dead, they dont care! Do you think, even if they are floating around up there, they'd be that bothered that they're being used on adverts? So what.
If people buy shoes because of it, stupid them, if people think 'buying these shoes wont make me cobain' then clever them.
Why the hell are people getting all up tight about it?!

first off i have to say, it was only a matter of time till some1 on here mentioned love. there was no conspiricy, and iv read all the shit, you people just cant accept it. also if he hadnt done it you prob wouldnt know who nirvana were as they would never have been so popular.
ok next, fucking kerrang as usual pushin cobain to the masses asd a god, for fuck sake, he wasnt the only one being used in the ad's ok Vicious is also over rated crap (not my point) and Joe Strummer. anyway. point is,, this willl not be the last time it will happen. i work in design annd actually think it is a good idea, its cause so much controversy, iit will seel boots, and if it were not banned you would have all bought them as you now wonder if these people did actually wear them..........get a grip

You're half right. I am "elitest" in that I think rock was best before it was watered down and worsened by subgenres such grunge and emo. Also I have come on here solely to wind people up. However I do it because it amuses me, not to make me feel big. And i don't give a damn how sucessful something is, except when it is so bad that it drags down the reputation of rock as a whole. Like Nirvana did. for quite a while on rockers got branded greebos for the tastes of silly hooded weirdos listening to bands with little talent who try to be sensationalist to get noticed.

I being a fan of Nirvana and Sex pistols; dont find this ad very offensive. Its actually a very clever idea to use dead rock icons as a way to sell their products to fans. It is quite a smart way to make money, but i wouldnt actually go out and buy them as they do come across as a little cheesy-band teeshirts work better for me personally. But i dont find the ad offensive. But ofcourse if the company didnt get permission then there is gonna be some outrage. Were just a fan base, the people who actually new the rock icons would be the ones getting offended-if i had a friend who was famous, then died, then was used in a advertisment to sell products without permission then F**K YES i would be raging MAAAAAADDD!! so i dont blame people for the reaction ie Courtney Love. So Dr Martens should of gotten some sort of permission, that is quite cold towards the family and friends of the rock icons :@.

wot a loada bollocks. who are these ppl who complain about this kinda stuff.

they aparently stopped the ad with kurt cos courtney love complained thats what i heard anyway i dont see the big dealio some people admire these people why not have them in the ads there admired by millions even though they may be dead.

I love Docs! I bet Kurt did too..psh, it's not that big of a deal really. Besides, it's a little comical, I doubt Kurt wouldn't have liked it, I think he would have found it quite funny. After all, he did let Weird Al do that Smells Like Nirvana parody,

I love Docs! I bet Kurt did too..psh, it's not that big of a deal really. Besides, it's a little comical, I doubt Kurt wouldn't have liked it, I think he would have found it quite funny. After all, he did let Weird Al do that Smells Like Nirvana parody,

Sorry but as a fan of Kurt Cobain I think he should be left to RIP. He's dead, leave him be, I'm sure his kid doesnt need or want the media attention on him like it is. Whether he killed himself or not, he should not be used for media propaganda.

I'm just glad to see that Joe Strummer finally found his Doc Marts that he lost in Sheffield when the first started touring back in the day....god bless the legend!!!!

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