Aiden Vs. Apple

Apple has banned an App for it's iPhone and iPod Touch range created by K!'s favourite goth punks Aiden.

The technology giant deemed Aiden's Knives App, which the band compiled to promote their new album of the same name, "unacceptable" due to its graphic content. This follows a similar move earlier this month where Apple banned an App by Nine Inch Nails which was based on the band's 1994 album, The Downward Spiral. Ironically, both of the band's albums are freely available through Apple's iTunes Music Store.

Aiden frontman wiL Francis issued this open letter to the company:

"Dear Apple,

"What can I really say that Trent Reznor hasn't? "I want to fuck you like an animal?" Oh wait, he said that. "I am a big man and I have a big gun. Got me a big ol' dick and I like to have fun, held it against your forehead, I'll make you suck it, maybe I'll put a hole in your head, you know, just for the fuck of it." Yeah, he said that, too, all on a record called The Downward Spiral. I have purchased that album five times in my life. I first got it on Cassette when it came out in 1994, I bought it a couple of times on CD and last year I purchased it on iTunes right after I went out and picked up the vinyl. Why? Because it's a great fucking record.

"I don't want to go on the same rant as him, although I probably share the exact same feelings.

"So what if a crappy punk band from Seattle sings about the deception of religion as a whole? So what if they sing about Catholic priests molesting little boys? Who really cares at all if they wail about a Hungarian Countess that was born in the 1500's and killed over 600 women? Who Cares? The PMRC? Ted Haggard? Congress? Jesus? Oh wait, no... JESUS ISN'T FUCKING REAL.

"Yes, maybe we talked a little bit of shit while doing the commentary for the iPhone App about Christianity, about sex and about... Fuck I can't even remember because it's so fucking insignificant. Why don't you be a little clearer in what it was that we need to watch out for? Oh wait... I thought I lived in America where my freedom of speech right was protected by the constitution?

"That's right, I forgot. I actually live in Hell. Oops. Remind me to tell someone I have a complaint to submit in the box on the wall.

"Aside from the content issue, the App was also rejected because you want to 'protect' the value of the iTunes store and having an app with embedded content 'competes' with what is ultimately your monopoly. Ironic and hypocritical, no, since Apple owns both channels?

"I just want to say thank you Apple for not approving our iPhone App. Thank you so much. To celebrate this great occasion, I'm going to visit your iTunes Music Store and download The Slim Shady LP; I really want to hear that song he sings about killing his wife and dumping her body in the ocean. Awesome!!!

"William Control / Aiden

"PS: And by the way, we have sold over 325,000 albums so far in our career without widespread mainstream media exposure. So, we must be relevant to someone."


Posted by Dan at 11:04AM | May 13, 2009

You tell 'em William. You tell 'em.

Sxox

Posted by Sarah | May 13, 2009 10:07 AM | Reply to this

TOO MUCH WRITING

Posted by Claire | May 13, 2009 10:18 AM | Reply to this

Their company, their phone, their rules.

If you don't like it, then tough shit.

I'm amazed Apple even felt the need to justify themselves... I wouldn't want Aiden to have any fucking thing to do with my company based on their music, attitude, faces, personalities...

Posted by Dr. Hero van Wildebeest | May 13, 2009 10:34 AM | Reply to this

i dont even like aiden that much, but......... WHAT A LEGEND!!!

Posted by karsh | May 13, 2009 10:54 AM | Reply to this

What a tit saying Jesus doesn't exist - there is historical evidence that he actually did. Its just his view of religion. I don't see why he should force it down other people's throats.
Some of the stuff that was printed in Kerrang last week from their new album is downright out of order. I know that some people will disagree with me here, and I'm not trying to start a religious debate but I actually found some of it really offensive. I'm not blaming kerrang as such for their choice of lyrics printed; although it wasn't what I wanted to read, it did make me realise about the content of their new album before I might have gone ut and bought it.
And before anybody starts referring to me as a God botherer or the like, I don't see why its become such a stigma in our society today to have faith in God and belong to a religion

Posted by Mark | May 13, 2009 12:25 PM | Reply to this

Wil, your a total legend!

Posted by Jamie | May 13, 2009 12:30 PM | Reply to this

Cry me a river.


I don't even like Aiden, or wIL for that matter, but this is just awesome

Posted by Titan50 | May 13, 2009 12:40 PM | Reply to this

actually mate he is talking about 97' Bonnie and Clyde, which is on the Slim Shady LP.

Who's the idiot now?

Posted by matty | May 13, 2009 12:54 PM | Reply to this


what a dick, aiden are going nowhere but down
hopefully they will spare us all this crying in the media
when they realise they can't even sell out dingy clubs anymore... amen

xo

Posted by Drew | May 13, 2009 1:07 PM | Reply to this

go get them wiL you fucking rule.
all you cunts saying there going downhill and shit well go fuck yourselves sideways with a fuckin toilet brush id pay anything to go and see adien/william control as wiL's lyrics mean a lot to me and i can understand what he's on about with a lot of them. you go for it wiL!!!!

Posted by matt | May 13, 2009 2:32 PM | Reply to this

go get them wiL you fucking rule.
all you cunts saying there going downhill and shit well go fuck yourselves sideways with a fuckin toilet brush id pay anything to go and see adien/william control as wiL's lyrics mean a lot to me and i can understand what he's on about with a lot of them. you go for it wiL!!!!

P.S: sorry about the swearing some cunts just fucking piss me off :)

Posted by matt | May 13, 2009 2:33 PM | Reply to this

will 'has lost' control as he shall forever be known now

Posted by nick bentham | May 13, 2009 2:37 PM | Reply to this

will 'has lost' control as he shall forever be known now

Posted by nick bentham | May 13, 2009 2:38 PM | Reply to this

he has a very valid point
why don't apple ban everything slightly offensive from iTunes? oh yes, because then they won't make any money
everything offends someone somewhere!

Posted by sheri | May 13, 2009 3:21 PM | Reply to this

I love wiL's point about that Slim Shady song. Highlights the absolute hypocrisy in the situation. You can find anything offensive if you interpret it in a certain way, and it baffles me that no one is able to express their opinion through music without it being 'offensive'! Religion is open for discussion, is it not? its just a view, its just what someone thinks. Freedom of speech has pretty much gone out the window hasnt it!

It's a really well phrased letter. I love it. And I'm glad Aiden didn't just accept this shit and change themselves. X

Posted by Raychel | May 13, 2009 3:23 PM | Reply to this

What an idiot that guy from Aiden is, well their music sucks anyway.

Posted by Killer Death | May 13, 2009 3:50 PM | Reply to this

Agreed.
Why the hell is he comparing NIN to his rubbish 'band', if you can call it that. I remember seeing them at Wembley with tbs and lostprophets, everyone around me were screaming 'fuck off!' and flipping them, myself included. :)
Also, Trent didn't rant, he just merely stated the facts, unlike that douche who is having a hissy fit, time of the month methinks.

Posted by closer | May 13, 2009 4:00 PM | Reply to this

he's comparing it with NIN because like he said, he's probably feeling now exactly how they felt then. pissed off. if he wants to rant, let the man fuckin rant!

&thats strange...every time i've seen them live they've been fuckin amazing. I took my friend who's not into any of this sort of stuff AT ALL, and now she'l actually admit to liking them and saying she had a really good time. Their live performances are amazing and if the world was a little mroe open minded and just let people get on with doing their own thing, we wouldnt have shot like this hahahhhhhhh

Posted by Raychel | May 13, 2009 4:23 PM | Reply to this

he's comparing it with NIN because like he said, he's probably feeling now exactly how they felt then. pissed off. if he wants to rant, let the man fuckin rant!

&thats strange...every time i've seen them live they've been fuckin amazing. I took my friend who's not into any of this sort of stuff AT ALL, and now she'l actually admit to liking them and saying she had a really good time. Their live performances are amazing and if the world was a little mroe open minded and just let people get on with doing their own thing, we wouldnt have shot like this hahahhhhhhh

Posted by Raychel | May 13, 2009 4:23 PM | Reply to this

*shit like this, even

Posted by Raychel | May 13, 2009 4:28 PM | Reply to this

Maybe people would take him a bit more seriously if he didn't pepper his "letter to apple" with swearing. I'm not against a bit of swearing - it adds good punctuation to what you are saying - but with what he's said he just comes across as a bit of a whiny kid. If I was Apple I'd take one look at that, say "Prove's our point really" and stick it in the shredder. And so what if he's got the arsehole about it? Its not like he's even taking his music off of iTunes out of principle either is it...

Posted by Mark | May 13, 2009 4:50 PM | Reply to this

Dude.

WiL, you're a fucking legend !!

Apple needed a slap in the face.

Posted by Beckyb! | May 13, 2009 6:44 PM | Reply to this

Him saying Jesus is not real is the exact fucking same as some Christian saying that he is real. NEITHER OF YOU HAVE PROOF. He doesn't have proof Jesus is not real and Christians do not have proof either that he is real, therefore both opinions mean absoloutely nothing.

Posted by Louise | May 13, 2009 7:00 PM | Reply to this

Him saying Jesus is not real is the exact fucking same as some Christian saying that he is real. NEITHER OF YOU HAVE PROOF. He doesn't have proof Jesus is not real and Christians do not have proof either that he is real, therefore both opinions mean absoloutely nothing.

Posted by Louise | May 13, 2009 7:00 PM | Reply to this

Yeah Totallly Agreee! WiL is a fucking legend! i think he proved his point extreamly well. Apple should just accept any album, Any music type.

Posted by Emily | May 13, 2009 7:04 PM | Reply to this

Yes Mark, because relligion has NEVER forced itself down people's thorats has it, go study a bit of fucking history because you're the tit.

Learn to appreciate people for thier musical talent, because that is the ture measure of a band, NOT thier lyrical content, that is a complementary skill more than anything else.

As for people bitching about Wil comparing himself to Reznor, (1st may I say I am an absolute NIN fanatic before I get flamed for this) - Wil's side project (he has openly addmited) is influenced by the sorta sound TR tends to go for (industrial to put simply and in a generalised term) hence it is natural he's comparing himself to a musician he probably admires and is influenced by.


Other than that, Itunes can go fuck itself for overcharging (though admitltdly, its still relativly cheap compared to phyisical CDs here in mainland europe) and for its cencorship of things deemed "offensive" and which it cant make money out of, but there's nothing bitching will do to change it, it's pretty much the Hitler of the digital music market and little can compete with it...

As for Aiden, meh, I can take them or leave them usually, but knives has sounded oddly good to me as a non-aiden fan.

Posted by SW | May 13, 2009 7:27 PM | Reply to this

Kerrang=widespread mainstream media exposure.

Posted by Matt | May 13, 2009 7:44 PM | Reply to this

historical evidence?!?
i don't think the ravings of some lunatics put in some crappy book count as evidence. quite frankly in my opinion the bible belongs in the fiction section. yeahh iagree it probs teaches some good values and shiz and theres nothingwrong with living your life by them, but don't go round claiming it actually happened when i'm sure it didn't.
ps, most the things seen by people in the bible such as things turning to salt commonly occour when your on some form of hallugenic drugs.

Posted by blahh | May 13, 2009 9:16 PM | Reply to this

That Gayden fella's a right whiny little bitch, isn't he? He's clearly suffering from a bad case of sand in the vagina.

Posted by Gorgar | May 13, 2009 10:10 PM | Reply to this

I especially love the last comments about the Eminem album!
Well done WiL!

I'd like the read they reply they send him, dunno how they could defend themselves though?

Posted by Paul | May 13, 2009 10:16 PM | Reply to this

actually... there is some real historical evidence that says that jesus did exist as a person, but whether he was the son of a god is another matter.

Posted by me | May 13, 2009 10:18 PM | Reply to this

okay they might not be the biggest band in the world, but thats not the angle they aim for..

go listen to your mainstream wannabe shit like fucking Metro Station n forever the sickest kids

Posted by Paul | May 13, 2009 10:18 PM | Reply to this

Clearly you've not listened to The Slim Shady LP

Listen to Bonnie & Clyde

Posted by Paul | May 13, 2009 10:22 PM | Reply to this

Clearly you've not listened to The Slim Shady LP

Listen to Bonnie & Clyde

Posted by Paul | May 13, 2009 10:22 PM | Reply to this

Clearly you've not listened to The Slim Shady LP

Listen to Bonnie & Clyde

Posted by Paul | May 13, 2009 10:22 PM | Reply to this

Clearly you've not listened to The Slim Shady LP

Listen to Bonnie & Clyde

Posted by Paul | May 13, 2009 10:22 PM | Reply to this

The bible doesn't count as evidence u tard! People who believe in religon are like flies swarming to a pile of shit. Just looking for comfort in life after death!If i offended u, i couldn't give a flying fuck.

P.S. if god is so mighty then why did he rest on the seventh day... must b lazy...

Posted by Dr. mat | May 13, 2009 10:37 PM | Reply to this

well it was entertaining to have a read if anything!
The religion stuff is just bullshit at least marilyn manson uses it well, if youre going to mess around with it then make it overblown.. but then hasn't that been one to death.
i agree with the person above aiden have been pretty hyped in the past by music mags and media i wouldnt exactly call them underground.
i'm sure this whole thing will hardly impact on the pockets of wither party only to increase a little publicity.
hoohar
x

Posted by deanooo | May 13, 2009 11:16 PM | Reply to this

why did he pick the downward spiral up on itunes if he had it on at least 2 cds and a tape? not to mention the vinyl he bought. come on william, emphasising the fact that you already have the album SEVERAL FUCKING TIMES, why do you give your money to itunes; a corporation which right now is sucking the blood out of the music industry... you as a musician should know better. like them, ALL YOU PEOPLE ARE VAMPIRES.. god this sounds like a child commenting on a youtube video..

lord bless trent by the way.. hes a god, and didnt throw the toys out of the pram when this happened quite the way mr francis here has

Posted by kENYON | May 14, 2009 2:06 AM | Reply to this

Go Wil, tell them like it is. Why DID he go on about buying the albums anyway? Religion? Everyone uses it. So why single these bands out? Fuck iTunes or Apps. I have a YEPP

Posted by XX0-0XX | May 14, 2009 9:15 AM | Reply to this

Firstly SW, I never said it hadn't forced itself down people's throats, and for the record I don't agree with that either. Forcing anything down anyone's throat will simply make them run the other way.
Blahh, you are very quick to write off the Bible, I'm taking it you have read it cover to cover and have proof that its all lies? Thought not. And my historical evidence that Jesus existed (not proof that he is the Son of God) is the writings of Flavius Josephus (roman philosopher) who actually records a small bit of information about Jesus in his writings. So pipe down before you go and insult people's beliefs.
And Dr mat, thanks for calling me a tard. Good to see we have really intelligent people posting on here...

Posted by Mark | May 14, 2009 9:39 AM | Reply to this

well yes, Someone called Jesus was going out with madonna for a while.

Posted by h | May 14, 2009 11:29 AM | Reply to this

tell them how it is. Apple:hypocrisy thine name is you.

Posted by Adam | May 14, 2009 12:02 PM | Reply to this

I aint a fan of aiden, tbh.... i dont like them at all.... but he's right by what he says.... also, for the anti-christ message.... people say alot of shit they dont mean when their angry but hey... musicians are better than jesus, because we're still alive!!!

AHAHAHA!!!!! JESUS IS FUCKING DEAD!!!! :D no wait.... he just wasnt alive...

Posted by Me | May 14, 2009 12:07 PM | Reply to this

I have to agree with what you just said, actually.
I was very excited for the album until I listened to "Crusifiction". The lyrics were so insulting.
I really don't mind that he doesn't share the same views, but really, it wasn't necessary.
I'm not even sure if I'll buy the album now... :(

Posted by Jess | May 14, 2009 12:26 PM | Reply to this

Tbh i think that apple are losing out because Aiden are a band who have plenty of fans, and he is right in what he says.... but the letter could have used a little less swearing....however his point has been made!

Posted by sophie | May 14, 2009 1:25 PM | Reply to this

i havn't read the bible front to back but what i have seen of it is complete bullshit. Jesus prob was a real person but not the son of god. and all the miracles he performed is prob lies. but if u want to believe in it then fine i'm stopping u.

Posted by Dr. mat | May 14, 2009 7:32 PM | Reply to this

go wiL!
good point well made.
does anyone know where i can get this app?!

Posted by charlottie | May 14, 2009 9:31 PM | Reply to this

go wiL!
good point well made.
does anyone know where i can get this app?!

Posted by charlottie | May 14, 2009 9:31 PM | Reply to this

I spat in this guys face at taste of chaos 2007, it was awesome, he's a douche, and i think its hilarious how he writes to apple like they give a fuck.

Posted by Joe | May 15, 2009 10:43 AM | Reply to this

Hooray, Andymark's back!

Posted by Titan50 | May 15, 2009 1:03 PM | Reply to this

wow some people can be so negative!

its quite pityful really : /

Posted by emma | May 15, 2009 11:40 PM | Reply to this

haha nice one :P way to show them lol

Posted by Aiden=] | May 15, 2009 11:54 PM | Reply to this

Hahaha, niceee one WiL, You do know how to word things, don't ya? Blewww me awayy :D

Posted by Molly | May 16, 2009 12:44 PM | Reply to this

Hahaha, niceee one WiL, You do know how to word things, don't ya? Blewww me awayy :D

Posted by Molly | May 16, 2009 12:45 PM | Reply to this

Hahaha, niceee one WiL, You do know how to word things, don't ya? Blewww me awayy :D

Posted by Molly | May 16, 2009 12:45 PM | Reply to this

Hahaha, niceee one WiL, You do know how to word things, don't ya? Blewww me awayy :D

Posted by Molly | May 16, 2009 12:45 PM | Reply to this

About fucking time. :D

Posted by Gorgar | May 16, 2009 2:03 PM | Reply to this

Kudos to William Control!! and to Nine Inch Nails!
Apple and other hypocritical companies like it must stop censoring artistic expressions. They are the ones rotting the core of America.

Posted by danharry | May 16, 2009 7:57 PM | Reply to this

I actually have read the bible front to back and it is bullshit, adam and eve both live till they're 900-odd in the first few pages!
One Roman philosopher writing it doesn't make it true.
Religion is the cause of all that is wrong with the world, fuck your "little bit of hope" if it means the murdering, child-molesting hypocrisy can be justified.

Posted by L | May 17, 2009 11:31 PM | Reply to this

i love Aiden,you tell em wiL

Posted by daisy morrison | May 21, 2009 4:12 PM | Reply to this

this is awesome apple are a loud of cunts they needed told

Posted by Alatair Jack | May 22, 2009 9:16 PM | Reply to this

i think wiL made a good point. its up to him what he put on his album, and his app and apple shuldnt have a say in it.

luv u wiL!!!!

Posted by Giemo_xox | May 29, 2009 12:03 PM | Reply to this

I just read through all these comments- pretty funny really- all these people talking about spitting in his face and bitching about him whining. GET OVER YOUR FUCKING SELVES, you think you're better than him for hating him? He's doing what he loves with loads of fans, Better than you- nobody losers. you say Apple don't give a shit what he thinks, well he doesn't give a shit about you whiney cunts. Aiden are amazing live, your just missing out, so bad luck.

Posted by Imogen | June 13, 2009 9:08 AM | Reply to this

AHAHAHA loved it, show them will :p

Posted by pumpkin | July 24, 2009 2:48 AM | Reply to this
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