Reznor “Marilyn Manson is a dopey clown".

I do too.

I like Fish Fingers

I second the above notion

Finally, someone else who thinks Manson's a cunt. 'Bout fucking time.

OLD NEWWWWWWS!

Marilyn Manson
needs to giv up hes scary lookin :S

not even messin MM is a freak, he only such a big name because he so weird, if he was normal no one would listen to his music coz it generally shit. Other shock rockers as such(slipknot etc) dont use being freaks to get famous, they release decent music

I think Reznor is being harsh.
On clowns.
Clowns have a useful purpose to society, they make normal people laugh, and they put the fear of God into weak minded fools.
Comparing clowns to Manson isn't right.

all you guys are talking shit just because manson looks different than the rest of you tits

i agree that manson looks different and we shouldn't chat shit because of that, but i also think that manson is a sorry excuse for a human being and it would be in everybodys best interest if he took a break from the world of being a psycopath

manson rocks, but i do admit his new album lacks something. not at all wot i wos expecting, bring back the spooky kid days!!!!

manson rocks, but i do admit his new album lacks something. not at all wot i wos expecting, bring back the spooky kid days!!!!

New album was amazing, im not bothered about mansons personality, his musics genious

I love Manson

but i think his next step to shock would be to be normal lol
I think that would shock the world

I'm with Trent
I hope he gets better

Seeing both Marilyn and NIN this year :P

Download 09/Sonisphere 09 =P
x

I love Manson

but i think his next step to shock would be to be normal lol
I think that would shock the world

I'm with Trent
I hope he gets better

Seeing both Marilyn and NIN this year :P

Download 09/Sonisphere 09 =P
x

I like Manson =]
and I don't get why people hate him so much.
I know not everyone is a fan of his music but you guys don't need to be a cunt about it.
If I don't like a band I don't waste my time reading articles about them, I just let it go.
It would seem that nobody has a social life anymore. Shame.

I love Manson! Everything about him!
His new album is different to the rest of his music, this doesn't mean he is going downhill it means he is just experimenting and likes a change.
He has done well to get where he is, unlike Nine inch nails, i think the singer is just jelouse and wants to get into the lime light and the only way to do that is make up shit about Manson.

Manson choses how to live his life and doesn't tell everybody else how to live theirs so if he wants to take drugs and drink alcohol thats his choice =]

Andy F
You may think Manson is a freak but that is how he sells his music. Slipknot's selling point is their masks. would they be as popular as they are now without their masks?
I think both bands have done well for themselves and they both produce good music. Don't just hate the music because you hate the person singing it.

Marilyn Manson is ridiculously shit, slipknot are qaulity even without there masks they would be quality, end of!

i love mm and nin but at least manson has a personality and is driven, nins albums are all the same these days and it is like reznor doesn't even try anymore so should take a look at himself before judging others

that has got to be one of trent's funniest quotes 'dopey clown' LOL.

he is the man.

Manson is seriously being a Douche! 1st it was Trent he Screwed,probably a few in between and now Wes Borland (even tho Wes did say it was ok)....... What a Shady guy :o/

Manson is seriously being a Douche! 1st it was Trent he Screwed,probably a few in between and now Wes Borland (even tho Wes did say it was ok)....... What a Shady guy :o/

what's with the arguments people? Reznor was just giving constructive critismnot completely slamming the guy. Marilyn Manson is talented and smart which Reznor acknowledged. Don't start bringing Slipknot and other arguments into the comment board unless you've actually read the damn article properly! and yes i am a fan of both MM and NIN

yer go on reznor marlin has just bought
out a shit album and plays shited up music so how gives a fk about him.

yer go on reznor marlin has just bought
out a shit album and plays shited up music so how gives a fk about him.

Why do u think SlipKnot is being dragged into this Hmm? Well let me tell u why. SlipKnot uses masks to keep thier music selling and thier music videos looking scary, while Marilyn Manson wears make up to look different and to show people that they can be different and be proud of who they are. Who gives a fuck if MM takes drugs and drinks. At least its better than wasting your time slagging somone that Trent Renzor wishes but could never be! And yes i am a huge fan of Marilyn Manson, he is amazing live aswell!!!! x

finnaly its been anounced he is shit

Who u on about? MM or Trent? xx

Who u on about? MM or Trent? xx

seriously u all talk shit
who gives a fuk what he looks like?
you either like his musik or u dont
end of!

As someone who has actually met Manson, i have to say he's a really nice guy, and doesn't deserve any of this. It's true that nowadays he is more of an icon because of the way he acts and looks, and not so much for his music anymore. But most people tend to label him as being shit just because he looks a little weird, without even listening to any of his music. The guy has a hard enough time a it is, get a life and stop giving him so much shit.

slipknots selling point is their masks?! fuck no. maybe it gets them a little more attention but its about the music. manson is a dickhead.

I love Marilun, hes awesome, and well FIT!

personally i love marilyn manson and if you dont like him tough there are plenty of ppl out there who love him aswell so just get over it and stop being bastards just beause someone is different

and why even bring slipknot into this they are an awesome band and i have seen them live twice and if u watched there interviews u would no that they dont wear masks 2 sell music

I think Marilyn is great(Y) I think people shouldnt be so critical about him.. If they dont like him then fine dont listen to his music.. But personally i love his music and i think he rocks :)

I think Marilyn is great(Y) I think people shouldnt be so critical about him.. If they dont like him then fine dont listen to his music.. But personally i love his music and i think he rocks :)

I think Marilyn is great(Y) I think people shouldnt be so critical about him.. If they dont like him then fine dont listen to his music.. But personally i love his music and i think he rocks :)

You know I really wish everyone would stop slamming MM into the ground. I mean yeah sure hes unusual, and yes some of the things he doe's are uncouth and belong in an insane asylum. However he's a man of many talents, to name a few He's a good music artist and also a very good painter. I am so fed up with people being so damn narrow minded, you are all scared of the unusual, scared of the things that take you out of your comport zone. You are all so DAMN USED TO THE NORM now, that you can't fathom things that branch away from it. And Manson is a great example of that, he's like the main branch that points away from the norm. And that scares you. Open your minds up to new possibilities that may or may not be questionable and believe me you will, come to find that he's not so weird and that he is just expressing himself, in a way that he does best. Yes he may be 'the shock rocker Marilyn Manson' but think beyond that and you'll realise he's a human being and a normal person just like you and me. He's Marilyn Manson on stage and thats all you care about. Start thinking about the man Brian Warner and who he is when at home when not on stage. I bet you'll find that he's not so weird after all. Because Manson's image is all we see most of the time. You all need to really look past the make up the crazy show's ETC. And realize he's doing all that because that's his Job, and that's all there is too it.

You know I really wish everyone would stop slamming MM into the ground. I mean yeah sure hes unusual, and yes some of the things he doe's are uncouth and belong in an insane asylum. However he's a man of many talents, to name a few He's a good music artist and also a very good painter. I am so fed up with people being so damn narrow minded, you are all scared of the unusual, scared of the things that take you out of your comfort zone. You are all so DAMN USED TO THE NORM now, that you can't fathom or stand things that branch away from it. And Manson is a great example of that, he's like the main branch that points away from the norm. And that scares you. Open your minds up to new possibilities that may or may not be questionable and believe me you will, come to find that he's not so weird and that he is just expressing himself, in a way that he does best. Yes he may be 'the shock rocker Marilyn Manson' but think beyond that and you'll realise he's a human being and a normal person just like you and me. He's Marilyn Manson on stage and thats all you care about. Start thinking about the man Brian Warner and who he is when at home when not on stage. I bet you'll find that he's not so weird after all. Because Manson's image is all we see most of the time. You all need to really look past the make up the crazy show's ETC. And realize he's doing all that because that's his Job, and that's all there is too it. Most of you should go watch a few interviews with him and you'll see the real person not the persona, I don't think i've ever seen anyone as intelligent as this man. And cut him some slack people, he's going through a rough divorce, so of course he's going to go of the rails. He's just lost someone he loved, and all you can care about is trashing him and dragging his name through the dirt, because of the way he is getting on. You are all pathetic really. I mean if you where going through a divorce would you want people trashing you.....NO I DON'T THINK SO!!! So before you start opening your mouth and talking shit about someone, step back and take a damn look at your own lives!!!!

oh for fucks sake!!

get a grip on yourselves!
Marilyn Manson is just different 2 other people by his looks but really who gives a fuck!
Who really cares what some fuckin cunt thinks of him?!
trent is just some wanna be who is jelous of manson.
so all you people who have a problem with marilyn manson
GO BURN IN HELL!!!

Manson is a legend , trent reznor just wants to be some sad rock star who hates drinking and drugs , everyone does drugs atleast once and everyone deffinatley drinks , trent just wants to get into the lime light as mansons making a better name for himself , nine inch nails are dryed up crap , mansons new album rocks and hes a real rock star who doesnt give a shit what people think of him, hes so entertaining live and is worth a watch , mansons a icon who people look 2 hes a legend x

I agree one hundred percent with Trent Reznor. Manson has never respected ANYONE in the music business, and he definitely doesn't respect even his own band. I mean, seriously. Buying Nazi paraphernalia with the band's funds? That's just plain sick.

Although, he is talented in some aspects, and I also agree with Reznor that he should clean up his shit, grow up a little bit. Then maybe I'd be more willing to listen to his music.

Do You Like FishSticks ? :D

While agree with his summary of manson being dopey clown ( hes hasnt done a a good album since antichrist ) I dont think Trent cant hardly say his mojos faired better.

His street cred went out the window a long time ago with Fragile and his increasing " user friendly " pesona .

WHile IM all for change etc his ( trents ) to me look way more out of touch than manson .

Manson was never thet great to start with until Trent cane along but Trent has no excuses .

THe whoie muse his music had going on really isnt there , its meaningless and the lyrics are terrible

( every ... word I menat day ) is Exactly the same.

So IMO as fucked up as MM is on drugs etc Trents while happy or whatever he claims - lost just as much street crted as MM - all be it for different reaons.

I dont care how MM looks if it furthers the musis but I think he feel into the trap of trying to go Madonna and simply burned out with Mechanical Animals. ( bowie look etc )

Trent has even really attempted to change anything at all other than his lifestyle which in turn seems to have just destroyed the very elements of himself he needed to make great music.

happines in slavery indeed

While agree with his summary of manson being dopey clown ( hes hasnt done a a good album since antichrist ) I dont think Trent cant hardly say his mojos faired better.

His street cred went out the window a long time ago with Fragile and his increasing " user friendly " pesona .

WHile IM all for change etc his ( trents ) to me look way more out of touch than manson .

Manson was never thet great to start with until Trent cane along but Trent has no excuses .

THe whoie muse his music had going on really isnt there , its meaningless and the lyrics are terrible

( every ... word I menat day ) is Exactly the same.

So IMO as fucked up as MM is on drugs etc Trents while happy or whatever he claims - lost just as much street crted as MM - all be it for different reaons.

I dont care how MM looks if it furthers the musis but I think he feel into the trap of trying to go Madonna and simply burned out with Mechanical Animals. ( bowie look etc )

Trent has even really attempted to change anything at all other than his lifestyle which in turn seems to have just destroyed the very elements of himself he needed to make great music.

happines in slavery indeed

Lmfao your saying manson is well kown becasue of his looks, and slipknot are well known becasue of there music!!! hahahaha Fuck off you 13 year old, look at slipknot they made it becasue of there shitty masks, i know heavya band that would bitch slap slipknot, but they cant get any were casue there to heavy for the mainstream and they look like day to day lads, fuck slipknot! manson wellk kown and respected becasue of what he has done in the past, the guy has alot behind his lyrics, slipknot aint got shite, so dont come pair them

slipknot dont sell by using their masks... it's kinda the fact that there are very very few 9 piece bands actually get past the 1 year mark. obviously it's not the masks or they wouldnt change it, since when was music about image? that was all before people started to seriously stereotyping. mm has cool music but he quite a malicious twat. obviously they both have good music.. seeing as they're still going. and trent is right by what he says anyway. but even though mm is a dick, dont mean he cant deliever good music. like bmth, just because of that dick head oli, they do still deliever some gnarly music

cant they just kiss and make up already. neither has been worth a s**t lately.

manson sucks anyways. he's an even bigger cunt than oli sykes.

Even as an MM fan, I must say that I agree with Trent. After so many years of watching him try to scare the fundies and everyone else, I am no longer impressed by his audacity or sarcasm; now I feel that Manson is comparable to a child, who screams and shouts to get attention because he doesn't know another way. I respect his music, and I find it disheartening that instead of relying solely on the integrity of his music to gain, he often resorts to paltry tricks.

I too hope that he gets his shit together, because he seems like a genuinely intelligent and talented man. Drugs and alcohol have had a ruining effect on his music and marriage, and I hope that he has enough sense to do something about it.

Slipknot can suck my left one.

were you there at download when they playeds the best gig ever. shut it you cunt

Ya know what? They both are dopey clowns, neither one of them are anything like what they used to be. They had their peaks, imo, for Trent it was The Fragile, and for MM it was "Holy Wood" and after that they both just started making weak watered down albums for the legions of trendy 16yo Hot Topic shoppers who only buy their stuff to look cool, not because of anything like musical quality or lyrical content in the albums.

Trent's music got lame from a lack of drugs, and Manson's got lame because of an overindulgence in them. Trent stopped making anger-fueled industrial hits with subtly political lyrics and went head on into cliche Bush-bashing. Manson stopped writing scathing anthems against religion and started writing about his breakups and other personal relationship crap like some whiny emo kid while simultaneously taking coded pop shots at MCR and other "doppelgangers" he thinks are copying off him.

The two people I looked up to and admired most are now just a withering husk of what they used to be, but it's alright and I've accepted it, after all nobody's heroes can ever stay super forever. I've accepted it and moved on to other things. I miss the past, but there's no point hanging onto it now.