Paramore are facing legal action from a little know band called Tenspoke Indies who claim that the Tennessee superstars plagiarised one of their songs.
According to a suit filed with the US District Court in Pennsylvania, Tenspoke Indies allege that Paramore's hit The Only Exception uses portions of their track Starlighter and are suing the band for copyright infringement "including but not limited to, similarities in the introductions, arrangements, the chord progression, the key, the melody, the lyrical theme, the rhythm and tempo of both songs."
Furthermore Tenspoke Indies claim that they sent their track to the Paramore's label, Fueled By Ramen, back in 2006.
A spokespeople for Paramore or their record company are yet to comment on the case.
That's a bit too similar to be more then a coincidence.
Posted by Andy | October 15, 2010 12:12 PM | Reply to this
Yeah, I can definitely hear the resemblance. :o
Posted by Gav | October 15, 2010 12:13 PM | Reply to this
And now they(tenspoke indies) get everything they want: fame and possibly money. Pretty clever, i'll give them that! paramore are, and will always be the best band of all time(in my opinion..)!
Posted by Gav | October 15, 2010 12:13 PM | Reply to this
And now they(tenspoke indies) get everything they want: fame and possibly money. Pretty clever, i'll give them that! paramore are, and will always be the best band of all time(in my opinion..)!
to be quite honest, i don't actually think they sound similar enough to sue.
Posted by rhiannneee | October 15, 2010 12:18 PM | Reply to this
Lol this is epic
Posted by Cj | October 15, 2010 12:20 PM | Reply to this
They're probably just trying to get attention. That's one band I'll never listen to.
Posted by Brianna | October 15, 2010 12:23 PM | Reply to this
A lot of music these days sound exactly the same, so a little similarity isn't exactly sue worthy.
Posted by Becca | October 15, 2010 12:24 PM | Reply to this
I can hear a little bit of resemblance in the intro, but the rest sounds nothing like the only exception :| its just a coincidence that they sound a little bit alike. And why have they waited til NOW to sue them? The album came out more than a year ago. Nothing more than a desperate publicity stunt from a band that has no hope.
Posted by Scott | October 15, 2010 12:24 PM | Reply to this
I can hear the resemblance but I honestly don't think its been copied. They're clutching at straws claiming that it has the same beat, tempo and pitch. How many songs in the charts sound the same? or sounds the same as an old song?
It's not sue worthy. small time band trying to milk something tiny for what it could be worth.
Posted by Rhys | October 15, 2010 12:32 PM | Reply to this
Yet again a "unknown band/artist" is wanting cash, more fans & popularity by screaming foul wen they feel their dreams goin south. Happened to coldplay, 30seconds to mars n now paramore. Paramore will be found the innocent party & this unknown band will get wat they wanted. 15minutes of fame, gettin their music heard, money, more fans. Fuckin dumbasses should give up & leave it alone. Pickin on kids should be illegal
Posted by kat | October 15, 2010 12:36 PM | Reply to this
Yet again a "unknown band/artist" is wanting cash, more fans & popularity by screaming foul wen they feel their dreams goin south. Happened to coldplay, 30seconds to mars n now paramore. Paramore will be found the innocent party & this unknown band will get wat they wanted. 15minutes of fame, gettin their music heard, money, more fans. Fuckin dumbasses should give up & leave it alone. Pickin on kids should be illegal
Posted by kat | October 15, 2010 12:37 PM | Reply to this
Yet again a "unknown band/artist" is wanting cash, more fans & popularity by screaming foul wen they feel their dreams goin south. Happened to coldplay, 30seconds to mars n now paramore. Paramore will be found the innocent party & this unknown band will get wat they wanted. 15minutes of fame, gettin their music heard, money, more fans. Fuckin dumbasses should give up & leave it alone. Pickin on kids should be illegal
Posted by kat | October 15, 2010 12:37 PM | Reply to this
they do sound a bit the same but i think this is tenspoke indes trying to get some attention (and i woudl like to add tht i was at tht paramore gig tht video was from :D)
they do sound a bit the same but i think this is tenspoke indes trying to get some attention (and i woudl like to add tht i was at tht paramore gig tht video was from :D)
they do sound a bit the same but i think this is tenspoke indes trying to get some attention (and i woudl like to add tht i was at tht paramore gig tht video was from :D)
they do sound a bit the same but i think this is tenspoke indes trying to get some attention (and i woudl like to add tht i was at tht paramore gig tht video was from :D)
Posted by Kristabel Brooks | October 15, 2010 12:53 PM | Reply to this
Aahaha, I love it. How can you not hear it?
Posted by Gooch | October 15, 2010 12:56 PM | Reply to this
HAHAHA you bender!
Posted by charlie | October 15, 2010 1:06 PM | Reply to this
Lol xD
Posted by JoNnY | October 15, 2010 1:07 PM | Reply to this
couldnt give a shit
paramore r fuckin awful anyways
Posted by woo dee doo | October 15, 2010 1:15 PM | Reply to this
Yes, they do sound quite familiar, but in many of these cases it's most likely a coincidence. I don't like Paramore, but it did seem to take this band a while to take action. And there are only so many notes and chords available to a band, so it's most likely just a coincidence.
Posted by HallaWreck | October 15, 2010 1:21 PM | Reply to this
truly truly fucking hateful band.
i really really cannot wait till the day this annoying untalented ginger tosser dies.
hopefully of cancer of her ginger fanny.
flat chested ugly runt.
Posted by Andymark | October 15, 2010 1:28 PM | Reply to this
I was there at that gig was goood :) but yeh i like paramore but that does sound like they copied the other band mabey not on perpose it was just in the heads of ages ago when they hurd the demo and did it by accient lol
Posted by DannyBoyLewis | October 15, 2010 1:52 PM | Reply to this
hmm, suppose the tune at times is similar, but the only exception is slower and the lyrics arent really that similar ... definately not worth sueing
Posted by LJ | October 15, 2010 2:46 PM | Reply to this
Sue them for crimes against music as well while your at it.
Posted by Jason | October 15, 2010 2:48 PM | Reply to this
So paramore aren't even original. That's funny. They have reached the point where they are so shit that they now have to copy bands. If only paramore would just fuck off.
Posted by Hong Kong Kenny | October 15, 2010 2:56 PM | Reply to this
How did I know that this post would result in hate from the older generation who can't accept the newer music, and the popular, sucessful bands. I for one love Paramore and can't wait to see them again next month.
And yes, they do sound slightly similar, but as HallaWreck says, there are only so many notes and chords available to a band, and combinations of them. seriously, Tenspoke Indies. You're unknown. Paramore are one of the most popular bands on the planet. get over it.
Posted by Kat | October 15, 2010 3:05 PM | Reply to this
surely if they thought it sounded similar they should have said it when the only exception first came out?!
attention seekers much? blates only doing it to get fame/noticed/money.
Posted by tessa | October 15, 2010 3:27 PM | Reply to this
Loving all the people that are shitting on Paramore right now.
Okay dickheads, you don't like them, we get the picture. No need to keep going on about it, get a life, seriously :|
Posted by Matt | October 15, 2010 3:36 PM | Reply to this
@Kat
"How did I know that this post would result in hate from the older generation who can't accept the newer music, and the popular, sucessful bands. I for one love Paramore and can't wait to see them again next month."
What do you mean the "older generation"?? Aha. We're all the same fucking generation you dipshit. Christ, how old do you think people who post on here are? And why can't people your age not like Paramore? I don't. I don't hate them, but someone on here just said they were the best band of all time... Which is bullshit. They're so average. So, so average.
Posted by Patrick | October 15, 2010 3:37 PM | Reply to this
yeah, the intro sounds the same but all in all thats it. the album came out over a year ago! why wait till now to sue them? to be honest, theyre just trying to get some money and more fans. but their new fans will sure as hell not include me.
Posted by Rebecca York | October 15, 2010 4:04 PM | Reply to this
this is such bull.
if it was the same, they'd have sued when the album came out ...
... OVER A YEAR AGO.
blatantly for publicity.
Posted by Mia | October 15, 2010 4:20 PM | Reply to this
The song sounds really familiar, the tempo and definitely the intro are almost exactly the same. I wouldn't say the band are out for publicity, they're defending their right as musicians not to have their songs plagiarized. Paramore didn't copy the song outright but they certainly picked up bits and pieces from it. A lot of bands do that and the unlucky ones get sued, thats life. Paramore can afford it anyway.
Don't like either of those songs to be perfectly honest. Super bland.
Posted by ellen | October 15, 2010 4:33 PM | Reply to this
boy comments: ''i can hear the resemblance''
girl comments: ''best band of all time...all they want it cash''
I think it does sound very similar. The fact that the band sent Paramore the track makes it more possible too. Of course, it could be just a coincidence but it's indeniable that there are strong similiarities...
This is just some stupid band who wants fame trying to get some money out of a band that writes from the heart. You know what? As a huge fan, I can admit that "The Only Exception" is a standard balled, that could sound like a lot of songs. These people are a joke. I hope they fade into obscurity and end up working at McDonald's.
Posted by Kayla | October 15, 2010 4:50 PM | Reply to this
This is just some stupid band who wants fame trying to get some money out of a band that writes from the heart. You know what? As a huge fan, I can admit that "The Only Exception" is a standard balled, that could sound like a lot of songs. These people are a joke. I hope they fade into obscurity and end up working at McDonald's.
Posted by Kayla | October 15, 2010 4:51 PM | Reply to this
The Only Exception sounded a bit boring at first, but now, after seeing them live that night at Wembley, I love it. As for these other guys, that song is pretty boring, and I think the girls here are right, they are looking for a pot of money they don't deserve. At the end of the day, the chord sequnce is similar, but Paramore's lyrics and that amazing bridge totally destroy that lame effort from this other band. And yeah, that performance at Wembley will probably never be beaten.
Posted by HollowNightmares | October 15, 2010 5:05 PM | Reply to this
obviously this band just want attention. paramore have no need to copy another band's song. who's actually even heard of these before this?
Posted by Molly | October 15, 2010 5:06 PM | Reply to this
I'm not particularly a Paramore fan, but stories like this crop up all the time, and only when a band hits it big. Most of the time its some non-entity trying to make a fast buck. I don't often sympathise with them.
This reminds me somewhat of when Excel threatened to sue Metallica in 2003 because 'Enter Sandman' closely resembles the former's song 'Tapping Into The Emotional Void'. If you can hold of the original you can see the resemblence. The classic riff is extremely similar in both songs, and as a fan of both bands, both of whom were important to their particular scene, I find it hard which one to back.
But to go back to my original point, most of the time, I've no sympathy with those trying to leech onto the bigger band's fame. Hell, if their songs was any good to begin with, surely it would've got them at least noticed?
Posted by Peter | October 15, 2010 5:12 PM | Reply to this
nah .... the Tenspoke Indies cant sue for "rhythm and tempo" ... his count-in for the song was waaayy out of time!!
it'l be a quick court case, i was expecting it to be very similar.
Posted by gord | October 15, 2010 5:20 PM | Reply to this
@Ellen - great comment. No bullshit, to the point
Posted by Markos Van Halen | October 15, 2010 5:27 PM | Reply to this
It's really not THAT similar. Even if they are trying to gain more fans by causing an issue... I must admit I rather like the song. And it has max popularity on iTunes, I see.
Posted by Mel | October 15, 2010 5:33 PM | Reply to this
they should sue paramore for crimes against music while they're at it :/
Posted by somebody-someone | October 15, 2010 5:54 PM | Reply to this
They sound similar, but not similar enough to sue. Plus Brand New Eyes has been out for over a year, so if Tenspoke Indies weren't just doing this for the money they might get out of it you'd think they'd have said something before now. And Andymark, shut up. Dick.
Posted by Liv | October 15, 2010 6:16 PM | Reply to this
They sound a bit similar, so what? loads of songs sound the same.
Posted by Reece | October 15, 2010 6:21 PM | Reply to this
Not being funny a lot of songs sound similar, and there's no need to sue paramore for this. I bet theyre only doing it for publicity in all honesty. They dont seem very well known and are just blaming paramore. so what it has the same melody tempo etc but its not the same lyrics theyve stolen. If they wana be well known then they should go the right way. sueing other bands isnt gona be good publicity and paramroe won't lose any fanss over this for sure.
Posted by Beccaaa | October 15, 2010 6:57 PM | Reply to this
Jealous much?
Posted by loop | October 15, 2010 7:00 PM | Reply to this
hahahahahaha i can't wait, not only do the songs sound the same but there is evidence that paramore could have had access and that their label certainly had access to that song, i hate paramore so this is awsoooooooome
Posted by wow | October 15, 2010 7:04 PM | Reply to this
They dont need to sui Paramore :(
Posted by Chloe | October 15, 2010 7:23 PM | Reply to this
I love Paramore and I don't think that those songs don't sound anything alike. I think they're just after the money and 15 minutes of fame. So, whatever.
P.S. If you guys hate Paramore so much, why are you even on this page. If you hate them, would you care about what's going on in their lives? I don't think so.
Posted by Brianna | October 15, 2010 7:27 PM | Reply to this
This made me angry. People shouldn't let whether they like the band or not get in the way of their judgement. I like paramore but they are not the best band in the world. And for the people that are using the "fact" that these people sent their track into Fueled by Ramen, well that isn't even confirmed. And there is only so many chords and notes so you're always going to get a song that sound similar whethr it's copied or not. I honestly don't think that Paramore would stoop so low to plagarise someones song because they must know what it is like to be a band trying to make it big.
Posted by Jasmine | October 15, 2010 7:33 PM | Reply to this
This is really stupid. They sound a tiny bit similar but I think it is just coincidence. If any songs sound the same, its the heartles crap that is in the charts at the moment. All that stuff sounds EXACTLY the same yet you don't see people sueing eachother on that do you?!
Posted by Naomi | October 15, 2010 8:18 PM | Reply to this
What a pathetic band. The chord progression is similar therefore Paramore copied them? They just need to grow the hell up and come to terms with the fact that Paramore are ten times more popular than this band are. Me and my friends literally laughed when we saw this, because a band that no one's heard with is that bitter about their lack of fame, therefore they sue Paramore? This band deserves no fame or respect to be honest, and their pathetic. Also, if it mattered that much to them for honest reasons, don't you think that this band would've come to action before now? I mean, the song has been out for quite a while now.. I mean, wow, their similar? So are "Calfornia Gurls" and "Tik Tok", but you don't see Ke$ha having a b*tch fit over Katy Perry! This band needs to grow up.. Paramore ftw!
Posted by Tom | October 15, 2010 8:26 PM | Reply to this
@Kayleigh 'suppose they do sound a little bit similar but wtf theres no need to sue paramore!!'
Well there is... because it's against copyright..
Posted by Lee Johnson | October 15, 2010 8:39 PM | Reply to this
omg lol this has made my day :') since there new album i have hated paramore i used to not really care but that album was shit and they have every right to sue them
Posted by gemma469 | October 15, 2010 10:36 PM | Reply to this
bullshit.
dont even hear the resemblance
and there are what, 12 keys? that means approx 1 out of 12 songwriters could sue.
lyrical theme? yeah how about every song about a girl?
rhythm and tempo? seriously?
bitch please.
Posted by Gil Halfon | October 15, 2010 10:40 PM | Reply to this
At least Paramore used it better and made money out of it! Love 'the only exeption' <3 and Hayley is amazing!!
have to laugh at claims this band are just in it for the cash. paramore may or may not have been influenced by the track - i dont know anymore than you do...but an author is entitled to protect their work. you cannot copy a novel and pretend it is yours, claim credit for a film etc etc. songwriters have every right to ask the question - 'has my work been copied for the financial gain of somebody else?' - quit allowing your bias/love of paramore influence your thinking. there is a clear resemblance that warrants a lawsuit and a court will determine an outcome. paramore may well be able to prove their innocence but regardless, the court wont be taking your love for the band into consideration. grow up.
Posted by Matt | October 15, 2010 11:12 PM | Reply to this
People need to get a grip who cares if they sound the same they should just appreciate that they both made good songs, The other band just clearly need to get money. Such pricks.
Posted by dom | October 16, 2010 12:00 AM | Reply to this
kinda funny how this comes about close to the same time as BNE's 1 year anniversary, I smell a rat..
Posted by mike | October 16, 2010 12:14 AM | Reply to this
LAWL.
The songs ARE similar and this is what is annoying all the fans. The fact that the band sent Paramore the track is what makes it possible too.
The gap of a year may seem huge but it's very likely proceedings began months back; Law is an infamously slow process!
Everyone is harping on about this band's bid for stardom and money- don't pity poor Paramore; negative press is still press and they will make money (indirectly) from this too.
So you see, they can put that money towards copying less intelligent bands in the future.
And grieve no more; Paramore have not died, although perhaps any ounce of credibility they had...
None of you on here can determine wether paramore did or didn't plagiarize but a specialist music analyst will asses the written music and draw any similarities and how severe they have. Any one with ears knows they have a case and theres every chance of making money, but did any of you not just think this little band are proud of their music and feel let down there flagship song is now going to be compared to Paramore...Thats enough to make me sick!
As people say, this isnt down to wether your a Paramore fan or not, its just business...Paramore probably didnt even write the bastard song anyway or at least the melody/arrangement - its common for bands on majors to have musical directors/co writers!!
lastly....if your in a small unsuccessful band and you heard this wouldn't you make a fuss about it? think about it!
Posted by Coops | October 16, 2010 8:38 AM | Reply to this
Andymark,many of kerrang.com cant wait til u die a slowly painful death u pathetic piece of cunt,so crawl back into your hole u lonley old fucker. Anyways,stupid for trying 2 sue em pretty pathetic
Posted by Alex | October 16, 2010 10:44 AM | Reply to this
thye beg attention.... go paramore!!
Posted by vampire|Love | October 16, 2010 11:13 AM | Reply to this
Whoa.... in all respect tho only hayley williams can make that song what it is !
Posted by Louis | October 16, 2010 11:41 AM | Reply to this
Paramore are my least favourite band and after hearing that other band, I have one word for them....FAIL. (:
I think that paramore would never copy them even they do sound similar paramore's music come from their heart's they are not like that and i am not just saying this coz i am a fan!
Posted by Jazzy | October 16, 2010 12:01 PM | Reply to this
been as everyone of their songs sound the same, surely paramore should sue themselves for plagerism?
Posted by will | October 16, 2010 12:02 PM | Reply to this
WRONG! who ever said only Hayley can make a song what it is...WRONG!
Posted by wow | October 16, 2010 12:10 PM | Reply to this
haha, I don't think they sound the same, however...
I like the fact that THEIR SONG IS ACTUALLY BETTER THAN PARAMORE'S !
Posted by ingrid | October 16, 2010 12:13 PM | Reply to this
i don't see why they're suing them
yes they are similar
yes they may not be happy about them sounding the same BUT
you don't see blink 182 suing 30 seconds to mars over r-evolve starting almost ecaxctly the same as adams song
OR
bring me the horizon suing escape the fate over massacre sounding identical to chelsea smile
OR
any of the countless covers samples done by bands
Posted by pointless | October 16, 2010 12:13 PM | Reply to this
haha i like paramore but this is so similar. paramore are commercial of course they would do it. sorry x
Posted by jade | October 16, 2010 1:30 PM | Reply to this
Very true, the song by Tenspoke is a lot better, I'm happy for Paramore to get sued, their wayyy overrated!!!!!! And I think its not just parts of the song, its pretty much all of it!!
Posted by Mirea | October 16, 2010 1:35 PM | Reply to this
Shutup faggot
Posted by Will | October 16, 2010 4:22 PM | Reply to this
Paramore are awesome.....Tenspoke are boring, they only did this for fame... The Only Exception is amazing! Starlighter sucks!
Posted by Jane | October 16, 2010 6:43 PM | Reply to this
well i for one am happy to see paramore getting sued yer it does have silimarities i do like paramores music well riot album but paramore have become bad they use to play like 9 10 shows in the uk maybe more n their latest tour wot woz it 1 to 3 gigs thts wen u know bands arent after making their fans happy its wen there after the money bigger venues means a bigger pay check
Posted by alex | October 16, 2010 7:38 PM | Reply to this
Agreeing with people in their calls for Paramore to be sued for crimes against music!
Thieves!
Starlighter actually sounds cool anyways :)
Posted by JoNnY | October 16, 2010 8:31 PM | Reply to this
I for one dont hear much of the 'similarities' only the intro sounds vaguely the same, screw you tenspoke indies you guys suck
Posted by Leonard | October 17, 2010 3:34 AM | Reply to this
STFU! i normally dont get upset over comments but wow that was messed up!! i hope u feel all big because u trashed Hayley because its hateful people like u that make the world a horrible place y dont u go slit r throat and die mo fo! hope u rot in hell...
Posted by michelle miller | October 17, 2010 6:53 AM | Reply to this
STFU! i normally dont get upset over comments but wow that was messed up!! i hope u feel all big because u trashed Hayley because its hateful people like u that make the world a horrible place y dont u go slit r throat and die mo fo! hope u rot in hell...
Posted by michelle miller | October 17, 2010 6:54 AM | Reply to this
These Tenspoke Indies, whatever they're called are gonna get hated now for sueing Paramore. Basically nobody will listen to them. xD
Paramore are so much better. <3
Posted by Laura | October 17, 2010 9:39 AM | Reply to this
They hardly sound the same, like at all and considering there are so many bands and artists someone is bound to have a similar sound or rhytm to someone elses song.
Posted by Orla | October 17, 2010 10:34 AM | Reply to this
Am I the only one who can't hear a resemblance?!
Posted by Sophie | October 17, 2010 11:01 AM | Reply to this
gawwd. it doesn't sound enough alike to actuallly squeeze a case out of it. it doesn't sound as much alike as, for example, chelsea smile - bmth and massacre - escape the fate.
mehmeh. i guess this is their 15 minutes of fame.
Posted by bella | October 17, 2010 11:35 AM | Reply to this
I think that after paramore released the song, this other band have written a song to sound like the only exception so they could then have a fair shot at getting some money and putting their name out there!
Bastards. Who is this band? ive never heard of them, but paramore have been going for quite a while now.
Oh man i got really pissed off when i read the story and then i watched the videos and i started smiling when the guy proposed to his girlfriend GUYS THIS WHAT PARAMORE DOES!! THEY BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER THROUGH THEIR AWSOME MUSIC!!! Heheheh Soz gt a bit sidetracked. Anyways I guess there's like a tiny resemblance bt Paramore are so much better, and I think they are just trying to get as much fame and fortune as they can from clutching at straws coz we all know that by suing the BIG band the little stupid band will get attention and money and their 15 minutes of fame. Stupid bastards GO PARAMORE WE'RE WITH U ALL THE WAY!!:)))))
If you bothered to read this on the actual Youtube then Starlighter was released in 2007. Paramore may have copied it, they may have not. But i love seeing all the Paramore fans get defensive over their amazingly average band.
Posted by Rogersisabadlad | October 17, 2010 1:01 PM | Reply to this
Wow, you kids are hilarious! I guess you guys don't realize just how much this happens in the record industry. When you have a pre-fabricated band like Paramore (that's right kids--this is the same crap they pulled on us with Avril Lavigne 10 years ago: pop princess disguised as an alt-rock "band" to cash in on your demographic) who's manipulated by the major labels (Atlantic via Fueled by Ramen), songs get spread around in the industry. It's perfectly reasonable that this Tenspoke Indies send a demo to the label and the label slipped the song to Paramore via the producer. It literally happens ALL the time, it's just not often caught. It's true that Western Music in genral can be repetitive (especially when writing in the pop-song-formula) but the two tracks are more than coincidence, and legally Tenspoke does have a case. And as for the time it took for Tenspoke to sue, well maybe they don't listen to mainstream rock--I don't! To assume that *everyone's* heard your favorite band is just silly. Led Zeppelin didn't get sued for plagiarism until ten years after the fact because Willie Dixon’s family never listened to the radio!
Posted by huckfead | October 17, 2010 1:49 PM | Reply to this
what's with all the hate? fair enough if you don't like them, obviously not everyone is going to love them. but why are you bringing your hate here? where fans are obviously going to react. it's like you're just trying to get a reaction. if you hate them that much why don't you make a facebook group about hating them, because i'm pretty sure the fans here don't give a fuck if you hate them. obviously they're not the best band in the world, there isn't a best band in the world. there is always going to be someone better. but what are you getting out of wishing them dead? you have your favourite bands and other people have their favourites. paramore might not be your favourite but they are someone elses favourite. why obsess over a band you hate?
in other news~ i don't think the songs sound too alike. but paramore are making a hell of a lot of money so they'd be able to cover their backs in case something happens.
Posted by Jake | October 17, 2010 2:22 PM | Reply to this
HAHAHAAA this has made my day :')
Paramore are SHIT!!! they arnt even rock music. they are shitty pop music xD i hope the ginger bitch will die soon! the fucking sellouts!
Posted by Jodie | October 17, 2010 2:25 PM | Reply to this
They sound little bit the same, but not enough that i think it's worth suing.
Well, now that whatever the band was called get fame and money, clever action.
Posted by turnaround | October 17, 2010 3:24 PM | Reply to this
i dont think paramore would do something like this, their songs come from their hearts and i just couldnt see them doing something this NOT IN A MILLION YEARS!
Posted by jack | October 17, 2010 5:07 PM | Reply to this
I Think That This Band Tenspoke Indies Copyied Paramore To Get The Publicity Etc Because Why Is It That Its Been Over A Year And They've Only Just Anounced It?! And Plus Paramore Wouldn't Do A Thing Like That Anyway They Make There Own Songs They Don't Copy Guys Your'e The Best And Don't Let Anyone Tell You Diffrent =D
Posted by Shane Knight | October 17, 2010 7:02 PM | Reply to this
i swear like, EVERY SINGLE article or news story kerrang posts always ends up with people commenting having a massive argument/debate and throwing stupid insults at each other.
seriously...do you have nothing better to do?
Posted by tessa | October 17, 2010 7:27 PM | Reply to this
HAHAHA I HATE PARAMORE
Posted by Lucy | October 17, 2010 7:30 PM | Reply to this
hey! you know what STFU,you dont know hayley and what shes been through k??!! just keep your mouth shut before you even speak! what comes around goes around idiot! your going to die first! no one wishes death on anyone!! did u ever have contact with your parents at all????? if you hate paramore so much then u shouldnt be commenting this! GO TO HELL ASSHOLE!
paramore rules!
Posted by Grizzly | October 17, 2010 7:36 PM | Reply to this
@huckfead before you make a comment like that and pretend to know as much about paramore as you act like you do, at least base your crap on something real
whatever you think of them, they're not prefabricated
they've been a band since their early teens, what kind of record label puts a chubby unnatractive 14 year old kid drummer in a band they want to make as commercially successful as avril lavigne?
everyone's entitled to thair own opinion, so it doesn't make you a worse or better person if you like pop rock or if you like heavy metal or screamo
there are worse bands out there, playing worse music than paramore
but they write their own, and i'm not saying that because i'm some 'devoted hardcore fan' who can't bear to face facts
that's coming from somebody whose actually seen the copyrights for ALL the albums both in their physical sleeves and the official copy right website
i've read the small print and from that point of view, it's all paramore's own with admittedly the odd person stepping in on riot
if it turns out that these guys win the court case and can be proved right, then fair enough, paramore have done wrong.
but as far as im concerned it's innocent until proven guilty
Posted by izzzzzy | October 17, 2010 8:01 PM | Reply to this
Okay, why the heck would Paramore pladgerize someone elses song? That's right-they wouldn't! Those lyrics and the rhythems came from one place and one place only-Hayley's heart. The only reason that 'unknown' band is trying to sue them is because they want a little bit of media. Here's a tip for you 'Tenspoke Indies', learn to get a better rep without trashing someone elses.
Posted by Amber | October 17, 2010 8:13 PM | Reply to this
No matter, how much you hate someone, that's horrible to say about someone
Oh, I guess you're right! So tell me I have my facts wrong: A&R Industry guys discover a 13 year-old singer; she goes to a professional vocal coach and is groomed to be a pop-star; she's signed to Atlantic at 14; she and the label decides she should have an "alt-image" so she drafts a band, primarily of her neighbors and their friends; they put out their first record and an indie subsidiary label to make it seem as though they are not an actual major label band. Am I wrong about this? If I am, that's cool, I’ll admit I’m wrong. Please give me the *real* history of Paramore. I'm sorry, but the minute I saw/heard these guys, my bullshit meter went off immediately. Same old formula teenage pop-star bullshit, but the major labels just keep getting better and better at masking it and marketing it. BTW who's the selling point of this band: Hot Chick Singer or Chubby 14-year-old Drummer? ;)
Now, don't get me wrong... I don't think you're a bad person for liking this crap; you only like it because you're a teenager that fit a certain demographic, and the major labels spoon-feed this crap to you. It's not their fault, they don't know any better. And then you have trash like Kerrang to promote the formulated major-label drivel to make sure this cycle continues. If you kids were eight years older, it would have been Avril. Eight years older than that it and would have been No Doubt.
But we digress…
Posted by huckfead | October 17, 2010 8:28 PM | Reply to this
@huckfead well that's just as well because without being rude, you're wrong
you're telling me that fbr looked at a 13 year old girl and thought 'oh she's hot' no offence but hayley wasn't 'hot' at 13
paramore were already a band before hayley even moved to tenesse, just with a guy lead singer who wasn't every good, they didn't even want hayley in the band
they're not even neighbours, they only ever met because of the once a week schooling group they went to
hayley she did enough begging and they started writing songs with her & eventually recorded some demos with her as their lead singer
they sent out the tapes and one of the guys who listened to it worked for fueled by ramen, at the same time they'd just won a battle of the bands competition in feb 2005 (this is before they'd even been approached by a record label, so you know, your theory about hayley being discovered first is wrong)
they set up a couple of meetings, have to play an acoustic, and their usual set and then they get signed in april 2005
i'm not gonna lie, i do love paramore, and i did like avril, but i also like bands like deftones, set your goals, deaf havana, and sunny dale real estate
the latter two of whom i was clearly force fed by a major-label drivel because everybody has heard of them, yes?
you clearly have a better taste in music than me, and that clearly makes you a better person than me
so tell me, what floats your boat music wise?
Posted by izzzzzy | October 17, 2010 8:46 PM | Reply to this
@izzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy
Hmmmmm. What's your source on that?
From Hayley's wiki:
Williams was discovered in 2003 by managers Dave Steunebrink and Richard Williams who signed the 14-year-old to a production deal.[9] According to former manager Jeff Hanson in an interview with HitQuarters, at the time she was writing pop songs with top songwriters in Nashville. Williams was introduced to Atlantic Records A&R Tom Storms through Richard's attorneys Jim Zumwalt and Kent Marcus, and then signed to the label by Jason Flom. The label's original plan for their new artist was to make her a solo pop artist but Williams objected to this, saying that she wanted to be part of a band and play alternative music. Atlantic decided to go along with her wishes and she then formed Paramore with Jeremy Davis and Josh and Zach Farro.[9]
From the Paramore wiki:
Williams was originally signed to Atlantic Records as a solo artist in 2003.[11] She had been introduced to Atlantic A&R Tom Storms through Kent Marcus and Jim Zumwalt, lawyers of managers Dave Steunebrink and Richard Williams, and then eventually signed to Atlantic by Jason Flom. Steunebrink and Richard Williams had originally discovered and signed her to a production deal that was later bought out by Atlantic. The original plan of the label was to turn her into a pop singer, but Williams resisted, saying that she wanted to play alternative rock music and wanted a band behind her. In an interview with HitQuarters the band's A&R at Atlantic, Steve Robertson, said, "She wanted to make sure that we didn’t look at her as some straight to Top 40 pop princess. She wanted to make sure that she and her band got the chance to show what they can do as a rock band writing their own songs."[12] Label president Julie Greenwald and the label staff decided to go with her wishes. The original management team for the band was Dave Steunebrink, Creed manager Jeff Hanson, and Hanson's assistant Mark Mercado.[11]
Paramore were originally supposed to come out on Atlantic Records but the label's marketing department decided it would be better for the image of the band to not have them attached to a major label. They instead released their music through a cooler niche label in Fueled by Ramen.[11] Head of Warner Music Group, Lyor Cohen had already identified Fueled by Ramen as a label they should partner with and it was decided the rock label would make an ideal match for Paramore.[12]
Well, isn't that interesting!
As for your comment about music taste, I really don't care what you listen to. Furthermore, I need to re-itterate that it's not your fault you listen to bad music. It's OK man, I still love you. :)
Posted by huckfead | October 17, 2010 9:11 PM | Reply to this
@huckfead haha you're so funny 'man'
you know i actually got it from a book that my sister owns
it's called a biography.
maybe hayley was a singer song writer before hand, still doesn't stop the fact paramore was already a band, if anything it just tells you that she can write her own music, which is what this whole thread is all about
but you know, wikipedia is so much more reliable than anybook with publishing rights, copyright, credits and actual sources
it's not your fault you talk bull crap or that you've deluded yourself into self righteousness. i still love you.
Posted by izzzzzy | October 17, 2010 9:29 PM | Reply to this
i agree, its to similar to be a coinsidence
Posted by Jess | October 17, 2010 9:47 PM | Reply to this
Hey izzzzzzzzy. We should start a band! Are you a hot chick? I'm a chubby 14-year old drummer! We can totally plagiarize some unknown band's song and none of our fans would believe them, because you're hot and I'm their same age!
Posted by huckfead | October 17, 2010 10:40 PM | Reply to this
Dude, u have a problem with her chest and wish cancer upon her? u seriously have a problem because you're supposed to be judging differently on this case.
Posted by Fi | October 18, 2010 8:10 AM | Reply to this
The only exception is about hayley view on love after her mom and dad split up and how her step dad abused her mom. This couldn't have been copied and they shouldn't be sewed...
Posted by jess | October 18, 2010 8:56 AM | Reply to this
Learn how to spell 'sued' before posting your teenybopper comment. Perhaps if you were at school instead of posting on Kerrang's website about your beloved ParaWhore you wouldn't have such problems.
As for the lawsuit....what 'huckfead' said.
Props to the Avril Lavigne reference too, ParaWhore are just another wonderful example of marketing guys and producers doing their job. Force-feeding 13 year old girls some 'rock n roll'......but nice clean rock n roll that your mum can enjoy too!
Posted by the bitch | October 18, 2010 10:50 AM | Reply to this
the band are probly just trying there luck, there songs are similar bt i dont think they have a case and i doubt paramore made the songs similar deliberatley, bt its no where nere as bad as when oasis tried to sue greenday because they sed that bulovard of broken dreams ripped off wonderwall coz they used the same chords,
soz fot bad spelling
Posted by jack | October 18, 2010 11:05 AM | Reply to this
the band are probly just trying there luck, there songs are similar bt i dont think they have a case and i doubt paramore made the songs similar deliberatley, bt its no where nere as bad as when oasis tried to sue greenday because they sed that bulovard of broken dreams ripped off wonderwall coz they used the same chords,
soz fot bad spelling
Posted by jack | October 18, 2010 11:06 AM | Reply to this
the band are probly just trying there luck, there songs are similar bt i dont think they have a case and i doubt paramore made the songs similar deliberatley, bt its no where nere as bad as when oasis tried to sue greenday because they sed that bulovard of broken dreams ripped off wonderwall coz they used the same chords,
soz fot bad spelling
Posted by jack | October 18, 2010 11:06 AM | Reply to this
Well, you win some and then you lose some.
if you wanna be famous be prepared to tread on alien land. So what their getting sued, they have enough money and enough fans to buy their merch and next album.
the other band are doing this for fame, yes, durh! your gonna try and find a famous band to sue.
oh well. its just paramore, and they make music for us to listen, not to love them and stand outside the court and scream "WE LOVE PARAMORE!" or say that your gonna turn lesiban for Hayley and fuck her, like most of my friends do.
its life.
Posted by Blue | October 18, 2010 12:20 PM | Reply to this
They sound nothing a like to me tbh..
Posted by hparkerh | October 18, 2010 2:02 PM | Reply to this
Well to be fair Molly, Any band, Including mine, Could sue any big name band for anything they have, It sounds very similar and sue worthy, I dont like either bands, but have found a slight liking for Paramore, But when it comes to this I'm not on anyone's side, and also Kat, I'm 16, am I not in the same generation as you? Well tbh I couldnt give a fuck anyway. Paramore are talented, But doesnt mean they didnt try to copy part of the song, cause they are pretty similar. You could love Paramore as much as you want, No matter what they are quite similar. And having a father who is in the music industry, as well as two cousins ( The Casino Brawl - Drummer James ) & Suzi:Won - Guitarist Andy ) The song is close enough to the same to be sued. Just to put my point across I dont particularly like either band but do see the ressembelance.
Posted by Levi | October 18, 2010 3:09 PM | Reply to this
For those of you who say "Oh its coincidence!" and "Oh, all mainstream music sounds the same anyways!" I suggest you read up on US copyright laws. Tenspoke Indies actually *do* have a case because it isn't just a similar chord progression, but a similar melody; similar tempo, time signature and rhythm; similar song arrangements; similar key & pitch. These are all mitigating factors that give them a justifiable case.
And not to mention opportunity, as Tenspoke had already sent a demo of the song to Fueled By Ramen long ago (Tenspoke would have to prove this, I assume). Now, if you have a band like Paramore who was created by a record label, songs get filtered down to the artist and pushed on them from the producers in the hopes of guiding them to make a hit. I can't say it's Paramore's fault that they may or may not have plagiarized Tenspoke Indies; Paramore are more like puppets here. If anything, it was probably the producer who initiated the construction of Paramore’s song based on a random demo that came to the label, as directed by the label execs, without Paramore ever the wiser.
I'd like to point out one more thing... If the shoes were on the other feet here, and it was Paramore who was suing Tenspoke Indies, what would you fan-girls say? You'd be pretty quick to condemn Tenspoke Indies, wouldn't you? You're letting your teenage infatuation for Paramore blind you to reality.
Posted by huckfead | October 18, 2010 7:29 PM | Reply to this
Case and point, there are millions of songs out there and probably hundreds being produced a day around the world, so some songs sounding similar to one another is bound to happen. In this case, the songs are completely different, at times seems a little similar, but for the most part are not. This seems like a case where the lesser known band is just trying to take advantage of what's in front of them, not a bad move statistically, but a terrible move on the side that it make their band look terrible now.
#&ck all you guys. Play both songs on guitar and they are the same. Figure out what happened and move on.
Posted by Rock | October 18, 2010 9:15 PM | Reply to this
Let's say (HYPOTHETICALLY) that Paramore did rip off this band and what not. If they say "that they sent their track to the Paramore's label, Fueled By Ramen, back in 2006." Wouldn't it have been a good idea to Copyright they're material before you send it out to a record company? just saying ^-^
LOL um nooooo....its the same 3 chords as 400000 other songs...and they suck btw.
Posted by shinigamidLo | October 19, 2010 5:31 AM | Reply to this
What a load of bull. Bunch of attention seeking c**ts
Posted by Jen | October 19, 2010 4:03 PM | Reply to this
I can hear the similarities between the two songs AND I'M A GIRL but bickering like school children isn't going help or change the fact that Paramore are facing a law suit. I like both bands just like other people do and other people will be biased to one of these bands becasue they like the other band better. Generations don't defy what music you like, it's taste and opinion. I'm in my late teens yet I love music from the 50's, 60's, 70's and 80's and I wasn't around in that generation, my gradnparents and parents were, doesn't mean I can't like it. EVERY band out there will have extemely simliar chord progressions and pitch and note changes to other bands, some people are lucky/unfortunate enough to get signed to major labels and some aren't. This case is between Tenspoke Indies and Paramore! Let them bicker it out
Posted by BeckyDerosa | October 19, 2010 5:23 PM | Reply to this
Part of me thinks they both plagurise ''One Thing'' By Finger Eleven? xD
Posted by Mikey | October 19, 2010 11:46 PM | Reply to this
did the "unknown band" really take this long to notice? it seems like they are doing this so they can use paramores fame for their own
Posted by seb | October 20, 2010 8:44 PM | Reply to this
Not bias towards either band, there is deffo a similarity, no question about it.
And this is a proper lawsuit, no amount of shouting "paramore sing from the heart" will get them out of it.
If the demo was sent to the record label, Paramore may have heard it in the background, and just not-knowingly made a song very similar. You can't blame Paramore for that, and you can't blame Tenspoke Indies for wanting to protect their intellectual property.
It's up to the court to decide, not everyone on here arguing over whatever band they prefer.
Posted by Paul | October 20, 2010 8:47 PM | Reply to this
Ok im in a band and u can even look me up trace of day im from the same area as ten spoke indies and played many many shows with them before paramore was even heard of. Ive seen them performe that song. I will be honest it is fare to say paramore did not write that song because most songs u hear by artist THEY PROBLY DIDNT WRITE trust me i bet they didnt write any of there singles. im sure a song writer of some sorts for paramore heard the demo that ten spoke indies sent to there label over a year ago and was like hell ill just take it. The music industry is so cut throat it isent even funny. i guess the case gets deeper text me if u want to talk more about it i got the info at band practice today due to my drummer knows them very well 727 418 6301
Posted by adam catalano | October 21, 2010 2:34 AM | Reply to this
Hayley Williams and Josh Farro write/co-write most of the songs from Paramore. They started out as a little unknown band, too. And songs can be similar - that doesn't mean the idea was stolen. Plus, considering the lyrics of "The Only Exception", the theme applies directly to Hayley's childhood and her life at the moment, her parents divorcing and the boyfriend she currently has, etc. Just because the two songs have similarties.... Well, that isn't reason to sue, or plausible evidence.
Posted by Bri | October 22, 2010 6:02 AM | Reply to this
hear for yourself
Posted by green room | October 22, 2010 5:29 PM | Reply to this
hear for yourself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la_aHhsG0Rs&NR=1
Posted by green room | October 22, 2010 5:30 PM | Reply to this
Honestly, I'm not trying to be mean here, but I don't see any resemblance AT ALL. It's driving me crazy cuz everyone is saying it's so similar. Howww? It doesn't sound remoletely similar to me!
Posted by G | October 22, 2010 10:54 PM | Reply to this
yeah, they sound slightly similar. but this band has no chance, i highly doubt they copyrighted this song. and anyway, it's probably just a mistake, i'm a huge paramore fan and i know that all of paramore's songs comes from heart and they wouldn't steal others writings because they respect other musicians that way.
sorry but wtf? i mean if this is the case then Hayley wouldn't have done it on purpose...i mean she writes all the songs for paramore and still manages not to do covers and all that and her lyrics have meaning...this other band need to grow up tbh...paramore forever!
Posted by gemma | October 25, 2010 3:16 PM | Reply to this
lol! i had to listen to this god aweful shite all the way through to see if it sounded at all like paramore, well..... tbh copied or not copied at least paramore's song is catchy, sung well and meaningful....... this band is just...well..... crap, sorry but i think personally that these 'pub singers' are just after some quick fame lol
Posted by maria | October 29, 2010 6:17 PM | Reply to this
lol! i had to listen to this god aweful shite all the way through to see if it sounded at all like paramore, well..... tbh copied or not copied at least paramore's song is catchy, sung well and meaningful....... this band is just...well..... crap, sorry but i think personally that these 'pub singers' are just after some quick fame lol
Posted by maria | October 29, 2010 6:18 PM | Reply to this
Posted by maria | October 30, 2010 11:36 AM | Reply to this
i think its abit pathetic tbh.
& i cant hear a resemblance :L
& so what if the tempo & abit of the rthym are the same? tbh, have you heard how many songs out there sound the same?
unknown band, go get a life & try and get a career without having to sue.
Posted by Eviee. | October 31, 2010 12:46 PM | Reply to this
this is just pathetic tbh.
i can hear a tiny resemblance, which is probs the tempo.
how many songs are there out there with the same tune and melody and blah?!
unknown band, go get a life & try and get a career without needing to sue a band that is insantly better.
Posted by Evie. | October 31, 2010 12:48 PM | Reply to this
Idiots lol!
It's a very basic chord progression with Bmajor and F#minor (music geek, ha!) and it's in a million songs out there.
Suing based on "the key" of the song, you're having a laugh in that case there would only be 12 songs in the world.
Hell, the interlude guitar part sounds similar to a piece my band did......ohhhhh call the cops!
Muppet haters should really just step off.
Posted by Matt | October 31, 2010 8:33 PM | Reply to this
I happen to know this band personally.
Know the copyright infringement laws before you make your comments.
I understand you love Paramore because they're awesome but seriously...listen.
It's the SAME music.
And it was sent to THEIR record label.
Don't make it a popularity contest.
That's wrong and Tenspoke's been around a LOT longer than Paramore as Harry Dash.
Don't let mainstream music and record companies morph you into thinking one way. How will any of you musicians out there ever get anywhere if things like this are just allowed to happen and then written off by you, the consumer and fans.
Posted by Alice Gold | November 23, 2010 7:35 PM | Reply to this
Agreed. What a twat hew is.
Posted by MissYesss | December 12, 2010 11:21 PM | Reply to this
I agree... but dont you think it's funny to watch them throw insults at each other about nothing?
Posted by Hi | December 12, 2010 11:24 PM | Reply to this
I personally cant watch the video, (cuz my laptop is being a dumb-ass-fish) But from what ive read of the comments and arguements and debate. The songs may sound simmualr, it could be a coincidence or it could be on purpose. Maybe Paramore hear it while they were out and about and thought they'd use something simmular. But this seriously has no need what so ever to have silly ppl cause arguments and end up 'shout' and swearing at each other and quoting things off other websites that arnt quite accurate.
Who cares who's right??? Tenspoke's might be going for some publicity stunt, and if it was it worked... now they got a whole page full of red faced argeued out ppl listening to thier music. Well Done them.
And if Paramore did copy shame on them, they just ruined every thing i idolized them for. (Their unquieness and sense of showing that they are different and not afriad to show it.)
Posted by Confused | December 12, 2010 11:38 PM | Reply to this
The poor youtube video of Tenspoke Indies Starlighter above is not a good comparison for these two songs. That was just a loose version of the song done live. There are many details that are lost in translation from the actual studio recording. If you compare the songs musically they're nearly identical except a few minor differences. You have to get passed the way the lyrics are sung to really hear the similarities. The Tenspoke video above doesn't do their argument justice.
Posted by Truth Seeker | December 15, 2010 7:57 PM | Reply to this