“[This] was the first time I had to come up with full songs,” Spencer says. In the past, he’d introduce a riff or an arrangement at practice, and then the band would build the song outward from there. This time, since they were each living in different cities, he had to construct entire tracks on his own—which inadvertently yielded their most challenging material to date.
“This record definitely had parts where I wrote the riff and it sounded really cool, but once we got all together we were like, ‘this is in some weird time signature I don’t even know how to count it,’ kind of thing,” he says. “Even when we got in the studio, Kurt [Ballou] was like, ‘I don’t know what time signature that is.’”
Beyond the difficulty of the material itself, Spencer says that Ballou (the legendary Converge guitarist and renowned producer) pushed them a lot harder in the studio than he did during the Trumpeting Ecstasy sessions.
“[On] Trumpeting he kind of let us do our own thing. But this time he was definitely like, ‘No, do it again. You can do better.’ I feel like he was able to get better takes out of us this time.”
Spencer also thinks Ballou’s production on this record best captures what they sound like when they play live, which is something they’ve done a whole lot of since Trumpeting Ecstasy dropped. They toured almost nonstop for two years, travelling with the likes of Entombed A.D., Gatecreeper, Cattle Decapitation, and most notably, Cavalera Conspiracy.
“That was an interesting crowd,” Spencer says of the tour with the Cavalera brothers, in which they were playing the beloved Sepultura album, Roots, in full. “And we obviously love Sepultura, but Roots is a whole different beast of Sepultura compared to Arise or Beneath the Remains. It’s obviously a more nu-metal, groove-metal type crowd...So when we’re getting up on stage and playing nothing but blast beats and having walls of noise, that’s hard for a lot of more mainstream metal fans to digest.”
Therefore, the band had to figure out how to adjust their setlist to entertain a crowd where “maybe 60 percent of the room absolutely hates us.” The inverse of that was the tour with deathgrind stalwarts Cattle Decapitation.
“With Cattle Decapitation, you could tell that it’s younger kids first trying to get into extreme metal. So with that setlist it’s like, let’s try to make it as crazy and chaotic as possible because those kids may have never seen anything like that.”