Megalomaniacal as he can be about his own music, the need for cross-pollination and collaboration is integral to his current artistic vision. With old collaborators Brendan Yates, Pat McCrory and Daniel Fang now fully taken-up with the ’stile, a concrete line-up of Angel Du$t members has been cemented with drummer Nick Lewis and guitarist Jim Caroll joining existing six-stringer Steve Marino and bassist Zechariah Ghostribe. Aside from the aforementioned Scott Vogel appearance, COLD 2 THE TOUCH also features Wes Eisold of American Nightmare (Zero), Patrick Cozens of Restraining Order (Downfall), Taylor Young of Twitching Tongues (The Beat) and Jim’s old partner in Pure Love, Frank Carter (Man On Fire). Justice proudly points out that American Football multi-instrumentalist Steve Lamos plays trumpet on Zero, too.
Beyond the realms of Angel Du$t, discussions of side-projects and prioritisation rankle with Justice now even more than before. Trapped Under Ice may be the band with which he came to prominence, but the idea that it’s anything like still his primary focus is absurd given they’ve played “maybe 20 shows in the last 10 years, when Angel Du$t have played about 800”. Part of the reason he sat up through the night before our interview is he’s set a goal for himself to drop five bodies of work in 2026, across Angel Du$t, Trapped Under Ice, bedroom pop solo project Cold Mega and any number of other projects with other friends. And every one is worth its own attention and discussion.
“Saying ‘side-project’ is like ‘side-chick’,” he shrugs. “There is no side-band. You just make music and art. Whatever is possible in my life, I’m pursuing it. And where some people sidestep between lots of different side-projects, I never have. My ‘side-project’ plays more than everybody else’s main bands. In the same way, some people now say TUI is my side-project and that’s equally offensive. Music and art are just side-projects for a lot of people. But that shit is my whole life.”
And yet, for all his collaborations and connections through the world of hardcore and wider music, arguably COLD 2 THE TOUCH’s most definite statement is 111-second banger I’m The Outside. Partially a play on the classic outsider declarations that so many young punks make early in their career, there’s something to be seen both in Justice’s specific phrasing and the fact it arrives this deep into his career. Much as he’s a figurehead, Mr. Tripp always walks his own way. No apologies.
“As alternative people – hardcore, punk, whatever – we’re defined by being outsiders,” he signs off. “It’s about making music as a response to what’s going on around us. That’s what punk did before hardcore. And it’s what rock’n’roll did before that. The name changes, but it’s the same shit. We make outsider music. We dress like we’re outside the normal. Me saying I am the outside definitely isn’t about being ‘more punk’ or better than anyone else. It’s that I’ve existed on the outside for so long it’s what I’ve become. Having a normal life is no longer an option. I can’t come back inside.”