Many will be familiar with your appearance on Foo Fighters’ last album, specifically the track Show Me How, which examines the idea of stepping up in the face of loss. How much did that experience, and exploring those ideas, help with your own songwriting?
“It had been solidified in my mind for a while that I wanted to pursue music as a career, but recording that song with my dad gave me a great deal of insight and confidence to give it my all and go into the studio, write and record. I had been demoing things for a while, in my room, and had worked with a couple of producers here and there, just to see how it felt.”
Your initial songwriting efforts were solitary but became more collaborative in the studio. Was that something you pushed for, to take you out of your comfort zone?
“Yeah, that was something I wanted. After a while of writing on my own, I started to get emotionally drained, as I was pulling from some very memorable places. That put me into a zone it wasn’t really easy to get out of, so it was fun to be in a spontaneous environment and really beautiful. A lot of stuff happens in those moments that you don’t really expect. Sometimes it might go wrong, but other times something even better comes out of trying. THUM was written and recorded the first day we were in the studio – I thought, ‘I didn’t even know I could do that.’ I had a lot of unfinished demos, so I hadn’t finished my own song before. It all fell together and lit a fire under my ass.”
Be Sweet To Me was produced by Justin Raisen, who’s worked with the likes of Kim Gordon. Justin has described you as "unapologetically [yourself]” – where do you think that quality has come from? You reportedly came home one day and announced you’d secured your own record deal…
“I was brought up in an environment where I was allowed to experiment – where I was allowed to express myself in whatever creative endeavour I wanted. Sometimes, you know, that creative endeavour might not go how I was expecting it to, but I was always encouraged to embrace things, whether it was dyeing my hair or getting my first tattoo. My parents were always very supportive. It also came from my grandmother, my dad’s mom [Virginia Grohl, who died in 2022]. She was able to move through life with this effortless essence and she was so knowledgeable. It wasn’t easy for her, but she made it through, coming out the other end, having this little community, a book [From Cradle To Stage: Stories From The Mothers Who Rocked And Raised Rock Stars] and show [From Cradle To Stage]. I think I’ve had some really good, strong female role models.”
You have your grandmother’s portrait tattooed on your arm. You’ve also written a song, Bug In A Cake, about living in her house now, and her continued presence there…
“She was such a massive presence, and when she passed it was really devastating. But her presence on earth was so strong and so vibrant that it feels like she’s still here and I feel very close to her all the time. Moving into her house was all I wanted to do. The thought of it being torn down and turned into some developmental property broke my fucking heart, so I couldn’t let that happen. Last year, I officially moved in. My grandmother had kept the most amazing family heirlooms, like my great grandpa’s World War II dogtags, and all the letters he wrote to my great grandma when he was serving in the navy. The song Bug In A Cake is about how the house is haunted, because my grandmother is still very much there. There’s a lyric, ‘Turn the TV off so it turns back on,’ about when I came home and despite switching everything off, the TV was on in the bedroom, with MSNBC on, which was my grandmother’s favourite channel.”