Your next musical decision was to join Gallows…
“I talked to [Gallows guitarist] Steph Carter and I was on the plane a week later. Because of their plans, we recorded and toured right away. For me, for a time, it was difficult, closing that chapter with Alexis – and it was a difficult position to jump into with Gallows.
“Some people are very convinced that you need to be one thing. In the context of Alexisonfire, some people didn’t know that I was one of the main songwriters, that I put the band together, that I love punk music and that was part of what I wrote into that music. Also, because I don’t sing all the time, some people thought I wasn’t a singer. The other complaint I heard a lot when I joined Gallows was that I wasn’t British, and I can’t do anything about that! I tried to just do it and not feed into the circus. The shows stayed the same size and were fucking sick.”
Do you remember allegedly terrifying an unnamed pop-punk band backstage at the Warped Tour one year, after they criticised Gallows during their set?
“(Laughs) That sounds vaguely familiar, but not really. I had a lot of fun doing Gallows, because those guys were all fucking lunatics.”
Was there a pressure to perform live differently with Gallows?
“Yes. It was getting to the club, looking around the space and thinking, ‘Probably going to jump off that tonight, probably have to pull that down off the ceiling.’ Gallows were an intense live band and that’s what I loved about it.”