What happened between you and Sam to light the Big Truck spark?
“We reconciled, which was a beautiful thing… he saw huge potential in [the demos], and that sparked something in me. There's this karmic connection between us. I've been reading books about soul journeys – and Buddhism – and they all say the same thing: we are karmically tied to certain people. Some people call it God or spirituality. I haven't found a word that sits right yet, but having faith in a higher being and karmic pattern, there are people that I'm definitely drawn to with a lack of explanation.”
You formed LARRY PINK THE HUMAN with Jolyon Thomas in 2020. Why did the demos need their own space in Big Truck, versus building on that blueprint?
“Jolyon and LARRY… showed me that I had potential, but it also made me realise what I wanted to do. I knew I had to do it all. Big Truck had to become as close [to a] solo project as it could be, without it being one. LARRY PINK THE HUMAN was an attempt to not be myself, to be the furthest thing from SOFT PLAY I could possibly be, and in reality, that was inauthentic. You can't escape yourself. If you are, you're not being real.”
When SOFT PLAY released HEAVY JELLY in 2024, you told K! how you started to embrace your love of emo and nu-metal instead of “trying to be cool”. Did that ethos flow into Big Truck, given how you’ve just described LARRY PINK THE HUMAN?
“When I started playing Central Reservation Blues, the producer was like, ‘Wow, this reminds me of The Cure or New Order,’ and it lit me up, because I am such a broad music fan. I grew up listening to Cajun Dance Party, Yuck, The Cribs, Joy Division, New Order. I love The Gaslight Anthem, Bruce Springsteen, Elliott Smith, punk rock, and this album has moments of fucking jazz and spoken word. I wanted to write a song like [Jamie T’s 2009 album] Kings And Queens, and I'm owning it. I even namecheck him, to give him props! Another song has punk outbursts. I love Talking Heads, Gang Of Four.”
You’ve toured the world with SOFT PLAY for over a decade. Why, at this point in your life, did you realise a need to articulate the sentiments in Central Reservation Blues?
“There's this weird divide that's [growing]. My cost of living is going up because I've got a family and mortgage. When I was younger, the money went further, but also because the cost of living was cheaper. SOFT PLAY are getting paid more than ever, but it's going less far to cover our costs. Eighty-five per cent of our touring last year broke even. I'm going away without even the incentive of bringing home money.
“Obviously, my partner loves the fact I'm following my dreams, but there's a very real-life part to it. ‘If you're not here with us and you're not making money, what are you bringing to our family?’ It’s a perspective shift, and it's tricky. I don't want to moan, because you see Lambrini Girls and Kate Nash talk about it eloquently, but what do we do? I'd call SOFT PLAY a big-ish band. But bands smaller than us, how do they exist? The melancholy of my life's choices are laid out on that song. It's meandering. There's no conclusion.”
How does it feel gearing up to play live with Big Truck against that backdrop?
“I am consciously approaching the sacrifices I'm going to make, whereas maybe a year ago, I'm booking gigs and not remembering people's birthdays. At first, the shows are one-offs or on weekends. It's still an experiment, but it's about consciously trying to make it better.”
With that mindset, is sustainability and longevity the goal for Big Truck?
“I'm all-in. I had a real epiphany this weekend, and I'm truly humbled by the reaction. Being who you are can open doors, but you have to warrant staying through that door and being part of the conversation. Let's pay it all back and fucking go for it. There's room enough for SOFT PLAY and Big Truck. But this year, I'm gonna have a go.”
Big Truck’s new single Central Reservation Blues is out now via Marshall. Stay tuned for news on the debut album.
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