What other lyrical themes can we expect to hear?
“moltov was like our stock little punk song that we had to get our aggression out on – that's about fighting the system, basically. There’s just a lot of frustration, angst and also a bit of hope on the record. Thematically, this record is basically a diary of everything I’ve been feeling these past two years. I can’t put it any simpler. I’m not gonna pretend it’s this amazing piece of art I’ve worked so hard for, it’s literally like, ‘Dude, I felt like absolute shit and this is what you get!’ (Laughs) I'm over it. I hate that whole Hollywood bullshit thing [people in the industry portray], it’s like, ‘This is my life, have it. And I hope you like it.’ I’m not this larger-than-life amazing person. I’m literally just a regular person who writes songs ’cause they feel like shit, and I don’t wanna sugarcoat that, I just wanna be real.”
So this record is you being done with everyone’s fakery and carefully-crafted Instagram highlight reels?
“Exactly! I’ve been so shit with social media recently – because I’ve been depressed for two years (laughs) – but also because what’s the point? That isn’t my real life, it’s highlight reel. I could show you a picture of me the time I spent 15 hours in bed and didn’t move, eating chips… but nobody wants to see that! Why? Because they don’t want to be faced with their own reality.”
Was that what life looked like when you were depressed?
“I am not kidding, yes! Because it wasn’t just my career, but my personal life was in the absolute toilet. It was so hard. And it looked like me in my mum’s basement in Australia and it was depressing as fuck (laughs). There's a track on the album called Doomsday – that’s the first song on the record, and it literally just encapsulates the entire scene of me in that room.”
What was going on in your personal life?
“I don’t wanna talk about it publicly, but I’m in a long-distance relationship, and during COVID, and when mental health is at play it is a fucking struggle! Such a struggle. Not even just my mental health, but my partner’s as well. And it’s just… if I go into any more detail, shit’s gonna hit the fan, so I can’t (laughs). But just know that it was shit. I definitely channelled it into a song or two. XO and Blood Clot are the two that sum it up the best. I hope people like those.”
And what got you through those dark, chips-in-bed days?
“I was trying my best to listen to as much comforting music as possible, but I was also watching TV like a sad-sack. The only thing that actually dragged me out was being able to do something in the day, like if I was going to write with Stevie Knight [longtime Stand Atlantic producer/collaborator], that would be what got me out of bed.”