Who came up with the title for the song? Robert Smith very famously once told us that Boys Don’t Cry, but now it seems they do…
Chino: “Yeah (laughs). The working title was always called something ‘boy’. I had three different titles, but they always had the word ‘boy’ in it – I don’t know why. But I was reading this article that was talking about scientific reasons why women are more buoyant than men in water. I thought, ‘Well, wouldn’t that be a good name for a song – Girls Float?’ Then I thought, ‘Girls Float, Boys Cry.’ I just married those things and then, specifically because Robert Smith was on it, I figured it was a nod.”
Did Robert say anything about the title?
Chino: “He didn’t! When I sent him the song, it still had the working title on it. Even to this point, I don’t know if he actually has any feelings about it or not (laughs).”
Favour for a favour and all, Shaun, are we to assume you’re down with Crosses guest appearing on the next Cure album?
Shaun: “Yeah, man, I’ll produce the whole thing. I got you, Robert!”
On the subject of guest appearances, El-P does a ferocious guest verse on Big Youth. How did you pull that off?
Shaun: “It wasn’t finished, but we already had the song in a pretty good state. Chino was like, ‘What would you think about getting someone to do a 16-bar rap?’ He mentioned El-P, and this was around the time Run The Jewels 4 was out and I was listening to that album so much. Obviously, I was waaaay into the idea. I found an a capella of a Run The Jewels song and put it on our track (laughs) and we were hyped. So, Chino just sent that to him and said, ‘Heads up, we just put this in a capella in there but do you want to actually do this?’ He got back and was like, ‘Yeah, I’m down.’ Eventually he sent it to us and it was just amazing – and he actually did more than 16 bars! He liked it and wanted to keep going on it so we had to send him an extended version.”
Chino, the world has heard you rap lots of times, how come you didn’t fancy laying down your own 16 bars?
Chino: “Man, I just don’t think I really can anymore. I have stated plenty of times that writing lyrics, to me, feels like a task at times – and rapping has so many fucking words! By singing I can stretch the words out so I don’t have to write as many words (laughs). That’s sort of my excuse for not doing it anymore. And I’m out of practice. Funnily enough, though, on Big Youth I get the closest to rapping as I have in many years, in as far as my vocals and the cadence of them and the way they’re loosely formatted in a rap. I didn’t even realise that until afterwards – Shaun’s wife said, ‘Damn, how did you get Chino to rap?’ And I said, ‘When am I rapping?’ I guess it kind of is. The whole song was loosely based around a Beastie Boys vibe. We were in the studio and I wanted a track that was just a straight 808 beat. In the end, we’ve sort of balanced it out – it's not out of Crosses’ realm, but it’s definitely a nod to the stuff we grew up with.”
You do realise one of you will have to do El-P’s rapping part live, though…
Chino: “Shawn’s already said he’s got that covered.”
Shaun: “That’s… That’s gonna be a no from me.”