If anything, as hard as it might be to believe, making The Hope List was a wholly positive experience. That’s right: despite being made during a pandemic, in concentrated bursts when guidelines and schedules allowed, and by men juggling very stressful jobs, it still managed to be easier than albums one and two. This is in no small part down to the appointment of Jack as Lonely The Brave’s singer in 2018, who also recorded and produced the album at his studio near Rochdale, resulting in two-and-a-half hour drives for the rest of the band.
“It was the most comfortable and relaxed recording setting we’ve ever been in,” reveals Mo. “We just got on with it and didn’t have any nasty producers effing and jeffing down the phone, calling us twats, which we’ve had in the past.”
Former vocalist David Jakes left the band early in 2018, citing the negative effects touring and playing live was having on his mental health. And while his departure was amicable, there are suggestions here and there today that David’s tenure may have taken the band into musical territory they weren’t always happy with. “We actually like it,” jokes Mo at one point, evaluating their latest efforts and feigning surprise. “It’s incredible!”
“I think this is a fantastic time for us to be bringing out a record,” continues Mo, flying in the face of what the rest of the music industry might think, excitedly awaiting the arrival of his copy of The Hope List. He’s particularly fond of the album’s second half, when the accessibility of singles Bound and Bright Eyes gives way to the kind of driving, muscular rock he says the band have threatened to make for years. “It’s the best stuff we’ve ever written.”
Bush and Mo are clearly creatively satisfied, but what of life beyond music? With the vaccine rollout gathering pace, are the two men starting to feel more hopeful about the future?
“That's the ray of hope at the moment,” says Bush. “This winter was always going to be tough, and I think it was even tougher than people anticipated, but as the year moves on the weather will change, which naturally means viruses are less ‘busy’. Hopefully we’ll be looking a lot better in a few months. I can’t see a reason to think things won’t improve a great deal.”
“We can but hope,” adds Mo, echoing not just a key word from his new album’s title, but the sentiments of us all.
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