Death Is Nothing To Us is stocked to the gills with things that get Pat’s brain moving. Its title is inspired by Stephen Greenblatt’s work on the Roman philosopher Lucretius, and its knotted heart is informed by Jean Améry, a Holocaust survivor who wrote extensively on the right to end life. But it’s also home to real punk nerd stuff with neatly concealed references to Wire, Minor Threat and Bad Brains.
From the outside, it’s interesting to see the way Pat slots dense philosophical concepts alongside sub-two-minute songs with the same care and reverence. At a time when punk’s rep for spotty bookkeeping – out of print seven-inches, lost flyer art, countless barely-documented scenes – is being countered by the crossover success of hardcore and the online availability of previously discarded records, his context-based outlook on life feels particularly incisive.
“Before the pandemic, things weren't what they are now,” he recalls. “I remember going to shows in Massachusetts and looking at the age demographics. I was like, ‘There's no young people here.’ I was alarmed by it. At first I was like, 'Gotta get the old heads out.' But, wait, I'm one of the old heads! I started thinking about the history of punk, really remembering the lifeblood, and some of the original founding ideas. This is for young people, but it's not literally just for young people. It's actually for the spirit of youth, and that is curiosity, and feeling like there is a chance.
“My big criticism was of people roughly my age gatekeeping the fuck out of everything,” he continues, warming to the task. “I absolutely hated that shit. It's part of the reason why there was such apprehension about the Have Heart reunion [in 2019]. I wanted to preserve the idea that this is about the present moment. I was pleased to see a significant young population liked Have Heart 10 years after we broke up. It restored my faith. If you’re an older person you have the ability to create opportunities for young people. That older generation held a perverted understanding of history, and of themselves as the truth.”
Death Is Nothing To Us is out now via Run For Cover