“My bassist Pete Daynes also works with Architects – he was talking about them and I thought, ‘Oh wow, their world sounds really fucking cool.’ I went back and listened to [2021 album] For Those That Wish To Exist and then went even further back, and something just clicked. I thought, ‘This is fucking amazing, and this guy’s unreal.’ It was like my entire world shifted from coming from a place of pure melody and emo to hearing how you can access this anger and rage, and the depth of pain that you can’t access through just singing. And also Sam who is this rock star, this incredible heavy metal guy, he’s the most human, nicest, down-to-earth person. I lost my voice at the start of my tour and Pete texted Sam about it, and he sent back the nicest message you could ever imagine. I was like, ‘Sam Carter knows who I am, and is giving me vocal advice?!’ He’s the nicest guy ever.”